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Yes, … observed. This is a shitty comment and makes HN and the internet at large a worse place. I don't have time to engage in an extended debate about this, b

Yes, … observed. This is a shitty comment and makes HN and the internet at large a worse place. I don't have time to engage in an extended debate about this, but I wanted to note, publicly, that this is inappropriate. (If you had contact info in your profile, I'd have sent this directly. Feel free to contact me by email, but I can't promise I'll be able to respond.)

Jun8 12y ago
I think yours is the worse comment in that it makes a judgement and provides no thoughts to back it back, making it quite useless. A good practice in commenting I think, is to provide some kind of why. The parent comment at least provided an informational nugget (which may or may not be true). If you think the information is provided in the comment is falso, say so. If not, what your position devolves into standard censorship.
secondForty 12y ago
Seconded. Perhaps the parent poster didn't intend to offend, and just wanted to pass along some personal information? It's hard to tell. To be clear, this type of gender-based ban is rediculous. A brief search on this shows there's a much more balanced information out there. Here are some interesting snips from a CS Monitor article on Tereshkova. http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0614/First-woman-in-space-Miserable-cosmonaut-or-triumphant-space-flyer http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0614/First-woman-in-sp... She actually solved the first big problem in her flight: On the first day, the ship's autopilot mistakenly steered her away from Earth, leaving her facing the prospect of being lost in space. After her trip, the Soviet space program canceled any future trips for women, and indeed, Tereshkova remained the only woman to go to space for almost two decades. In 1982, the Soviets launched a second woman, Svetlana Savitskaya, and the next year, America sent up Sally Ride. Since then, 48 other American women have gone to space, but only one other Russian: Yelena V. Kondakova, in 1994. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/science/space/sally-ride-trailblazing-astronaut-dies-at-61.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/science/space/sally-ride-t...
- huhtenberg 12y ago
  > She actually solved the first big problem in her flight: On the first day, the ship's autopilot mistakenly steered her away from Earth, leaving her facing the prospect of being lost in space. The Cristian Science Monitor is an excellent source of information on the Soviet space program, but the autopilot malfunction was exactly what triggered Tereshkova's meltdown. It took considerable effort for the Control Center to make her calm down and follow the instructions to reset the autopilot. She was by and large unfit for the mission and she ended up in space only because Soviet Union needed to launch a woman into orbit.
  - aasarava 12y ago
    Do you have any sources for this other than, literally, "dad's dad's friend who heard a rumor?"
    - huhtenberg 12y ago
      From what I understand my grandafather's friend was a part of the launch crew, so it's not exactly "dad's dad's friend + rumor", but here you go anyways, courtesy of Wikipedia - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ho9TOB7t http://www.webcitation.org/6Ho9TOB7t You want this part - В космос Терешкова слетала. Это потрясающая, мужественная женщина, но ведь она не выполнила ни единого своего задания! Ее тошнило в космосе, она теряла сознание, мне Королев рассказывал. Тогда же при мне он сказал: «Пока я жив, ни одна женщина в космос больше не полетит». И двадцать лет наши женщины не были в космосе. I trust you can handle the translation.
huhtenberg 12y ago
Charming. You'd be shocked to know that there are stories out there that are not politically correct. Pray tell, how concealing them is making the internet a better place. > Feel free to contact me by email, but I can't promise I'll be able to respond. Wow, thank you. Very gracious of you.
mikestew 12y ago
Your comment is no less shitty. If you're going to come right out and label it a "shitty comment" and claim that it makes the world a worse place, you better be backing it up and not running away with "oh, but I can't be bothered to explain it". You don't have time? Maybe you shouldn't be reading HN and making hit-and-run comments, and go back to your editor of choice if you're that pressed. What's so inappropriate? Has the story been debunked as not being true? Were women, in fact, not banned by the named authority for a period of time? Or did you take it as some misogynistic comment about how girls shouldn't make space flights? If you've assumed that the reason for your vitriol should be obvious to all, you'd be wrong. I read the OP comment and only thought, "hmm, didn't know that. Will have to go read up on that later."

Jun8 12y ago

I think yours is the worse comment in that it makes a judgement and provides no thoughts to back it back, making it quite useless. A good practice in commenting I think, is to provide some kind of why. The parent comment at least provided an informational nugget (which may or may not be true). If you think the information is provided in the comment is falso, say so. If not, what your position devolves into standard censorship.

secondForty 12y ago

Seconded. Perhaps the parent poster didn't intend to offend, and just wanted to pass along some personal information? It's hard to tell. To be clear, this type of gender-based ban is rediculous. A brief search on this shows there's a much more balanced information out there. Here are some interesting snips from a CS Monitor article on Tereshkova. http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0614/First-woman-in-space-Miserable-cosmonaut-or-triumphant-space-flyer http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0614/First-woman-in-sp... She actually solved the first big problem in her flight: On the first day, the ship's autopilot mistakenly steered her away from Earth, leaving her facing the prospect of being lost in space. After her trip, the Soviet space program canceled any future trips for women, and indeed, Tereshkova remained the only woman to go to space for almost two decades. In 1982, the Soviets launched a second woman, Svetlana Savitskaya, and the next year, America sent up Sally Ride. Since then, 48 other American women have gone to space, but only one other Russian: Yelena V. Kondakova, in 1994. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/science/space/sally-ride-trailblazing-astronaut-dies-at-61.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/science/space/sally-ride-t...

huhtenberg 12y ago
> She actually solved the first big problem in her flight: On the first day, the ship's autopilot mistakenly steered her away from Earth, leaving her facing the prospect of being lost in space. The Cristian Science Monitor is an excellent source of information on the Soviet space program, but the autopilot malfunction was exactly what triggered Tereshkova's meltdown. It took considerable effort for the Control Center to make her calm down and follow the instructions to reset the autopilot. She was by and large unfit for the mission and she ended up in space only because Soviet Union needed to launch a woman into orbit.
- aasarava 12y ago
  Do you have any sources for this other than, literally, "dad's dad's friend who heard a rumor?"
  - huhtenberg 12y ago
    From what I understand my grandafather's friend was a part of the launch crew, so it's not exactly "dad's dad's friend + rumor", but here you go anyways, courtesy of Wikipedia - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ho9TOB7t http://www.webcitation.org/6Ho9TOB7t You want this part - В космос Терешкова слетала. Это потрясающая, мужественная женщина, но ведь она не выполнила ни единого своего задания! Ее тошнило в космосе, она теряла сознание, мне Королев рассказывал. Тогда же при мне он сказал: «Пока я жив, ни одна женщина в космос больше не полетит». И двадцать лет наши женщины не были в космосе. I trust you can handle the translation.

huhtenberg 12y ago

Charming. You'd be shocked to know that there are stories out there that are not politically correct. Pray tell, how concealing them is making the internet a better place. > Feel free to contact me by email, but I can't promise I'll be able to respond. Wow, thank you. Very gracious of you.

mikestew 12y ago

Your comment is no less shitty. If you're going to come right out and label it a "shitty comment" and claim that it makes the world a worse place, you better be backing it up and not running away with "oh, but I can't be bothered to explain it". You don't have time? Maybe you shouldn't be reading HN and making hit-and-run comments, and go back to your editor of choice if you're that pressed. What's so inappropriate? Has the story been debunked as not being true? Were women, in fact, not banned by the named authority for a period of time? Or did you take it as some misogynistic comment about how girls shouldn't make space flights? If you've assumed that the reason for your vitriol should be obvious to all, you'd be wrong. I read the OP comment and only thought, "hmm, didn't know that. Will have to go read up on that later."