Yet this completely wipes out the savings from not having a car, in most places where not having a car is otherwise feasible, I'd imagine. But 25 minutes (10 e

Yet this completely wipes out the savings from not having a car, in most places where not having a car is otherwise feasible, I'd imagine. But 25 minutes (10 each way and an optimistic 5 to get something, wait in line, check out...) is too long for this use case anyway, in my opinion; it's just barely possible with a car, and I live about 12 minutes walk or 3-4 minutes drive from a store right now.