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Social mobility is very low in France as well and education is pretty much free.

levosmetalo 12y ago
Social mobility is low everywhere in the world, and education is just one small factor so it's not easy to find a correlation there without looking at the bigger picture.
- sprash 12y ago
  Maybe social mobility is low everywhere because smart parents breed smart kids. But considering genetics is deemed to be politically incorrect.
  - istjohn 12y ago
    It's only politically incorrect when it's used as an excuse to ignore legitimate social issues as you've done here.
  - bitkrieg 12y ago
    Because it's not the genes but the social environment which shapes the individual's progress in a society.
    - wolfgke 12y ago
      [Citation needed]
richthegeek 12y ago
I was under the impression that in France their universities are operated in similar manner and number as their high schools. Combined with funding based only on the number of students provided by the govt. the quality in education possibly doesn't differ enough to provide any effect on social mobility.
MrBuddyCasino 12y ago
Well the french elite is commonly described as being a pretty incestuous affair. There a few elite schools, and the countries top politicians and industry leaders are all recruited from there. Not saying they are worse than the german system, but certainly not better.
daviddumenil 12y ago
France has relatively high Social Mobility. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/may/22/social-mobility-data-charts http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/may/22/social-...
- FractalNerve 12y ago
  Excuse my stupid question, but what does social mobility mean? [serious]
  - junto 12y ago
    Quite simply: The ability to move between social classes. Social mobility is the movement of individuals, families, households, or other categories of people within or between social strata in a society. It is a change in social status relative to others' social location within a given society. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility

Social mobility is low everywhere in the world, and education is just one small factor so it's not easy to find a correlation there without looking at the bigger picture.

sprash 12y ago
Maybe social mobility is low everywhere because smart parents breed smart kids. But considering genetics is deemed to be politically incorrect.
- istjohn 12y ago
  It's only politically incorrect when it's used as an excuse to ignore legitimate social issues as you've done here.
- bitkrieg 12y ago
  Because it's not the genes but the social environment which shapes the individual's progress in a society.
  - wolfgke 12y ago
    [Citation needed]

richthegeek 12y ago

I was under the impression that in France their universities are operated in similar manner and number as their high schools. Combined with funding based only on the number of students provided by the govt. the quality in education possibly doesn't differ enough to provide any effect on social mobility.

MrBuddyCasino 12y ago

Well the french elite is commonly described as being a pretty incestuous affair. There a few elite schools, and the countries top politicians and industry leaders are all recruited from there. Not saying they are worse than the german system, but certainly not better.

daviddumenil 12y ago

France has relatively high Social Mobility. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/may/22/social-mobility-data-charts http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/may/22/social-...

FractalNerve 12y ago
Excuse my stupid question, but what does social mobility mean? [serious]
- junto 12y ago
  Quite simply: The ability to move between social classes. Social mobility is the movement of individuals, families, households, or other categories of people within or between social strata in a society. It is a change in social status relative to others' social location within a given society. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility