Yes that's a point I was expecting to be raised after I wrote the above comment as is normal with any Apple post, "Hey there doing great why change anything", b

Yes that's a point I was expecting to be raised after I wrote the above comment as is normal with any Apple post, "Hey there doing great why change anything", but I'd argue that yes things are working out great for them now but it's clearly costing the employees a portion of their personal life and I feel that given how well off the company is it shouldn't be needed. In the podcast these ex Apple employees also mention being glad to be out of Apple because of issues like this, so provided that they move away from this culture they may see better employee retention for mid tier employees rather than having people burn out and leave the company.