Not sure if you've been on the other side of the "battle", but there is a heck of a lot of genuine spammers on the site, and shadowbans are one of the few effec

Not sure if you've been on the other side of the "battle", but there is a heck of a lot of genuine spammers on the site, and shadowbans are one of the few effective tools. Very rarely is it the kind-hearted entrepreneur showing off a new thing he built who gets hit with a shadowban. It happens, but it's rare. More common is people creating accounts to do nothing but advertise, usually neglecting to disclose their affiliation in any way. Even more common is spammers creating hundreds of throwaway accounts used to promote Youtube channels/affiliate links/click scams/article farms and other nonsense. If you use a regular ban they simply make a new account. So yes, there's a very good reason for shadowbans. >There's the whole 90/10 rule 90/10 is a guideline, not a hard set rule. Moderators of a subreddit have wiggle room when it comes to defining spammers. Many subs allow self-promotion. If you're advertising in one that doesn't allow it, then you're in the wrong. >I wish they would just let the upvote/downvote system do its job Votes work decently to bubble up quality content (if you consider lowest-common-denominator "decent"), but ultimately it does nothing for preventing spam, trolls, doxers, spoilers and whatever else.