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Hi, The spirit of this is to avoid abuse on our cloud. If you don't feel comfortable providing us with contact information, we're probably not the place for yo

by mp99e99 12y ago

Hi, The spirit of this is to avoid abuse on our cloud. If you don't feel comfortable providing us with contact information, we're probably not the place for you. I'm working on the AUP tomorrow, the cron/background services doesn't make sense or the RAM.

aroch 12y ago
So you tried to launch this with great fanfare and couldn't be bothered to review your AUP? Or the copy in most sections of your site (typos, unmatched tenses, random spaces or lack thereof)? Why should I trust you with my information if you can't even handle your own? What kind of abuse do you think it is preventing? How does it prevent abuse from anyone but the least motivated abuser? If I wanted to abuse your service, I could pay people $0.50 on mechanical turk to register accounts for me (indeed this is a fairly common low-skill-low-reward task on mturk). I'm sorry but this plus the launch of your HIPAA hosting, which was also plagued by typos and wrong ToS, doesn't inspire any sort of confidence in your abilities at Atlantic.net.
- icedchai 12y ago
  It's sad that nobody reads AUPs, not even the people who write (or rather, copy/paste) them.
- visarga 12y ago
  > If I wanted to abuse your service, I could pay people $0.50 on mechanical turk to register accounts for me LOL. You want to use 1 petabyte for cheap?
  - bmelton 12y ago
    They're offering a Terabyte for 0.99 cents. It doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to assume that they'd be most attractive to people who wanted lots of capacity for a low price. If using the service that Atlantic is offering is going to somehow bankrupt them, then perhaps they shouldn't offer it.
    - TomGullen 12y ago
      Upload rate would probably be restricted making it unviable as say a download server
blhack 12y ago
Who wrote this? Why did something about cron jobs even make it into the AUP?
- girvo 12y ago
  Shared hosting providers often don't allow background tasks, so I'd guess that's where it came from.
aroch 12y ago
Why does 'your' AUP contain the same errors present in an AUP written in 2007? https://web.archive.org/web/20141001003619/http://www.pslhosting.com/announcements.php?id=1 https://web.archive.org/web/20141001003619/http://www.pslhos... Edit: Jesus the more I dig into this the more worried I become about what the hell kind of business you're running. Assuming you're on the only one to use the `mp99e99` handle with any regularity, I'm greatly concerned.
wosos 12y ago
I'm about to get signed up and start recommending this to a few small business, I'll be looking forward to this change on the AUP. Thank you for your response.
- mp99e99 12y ago
  thanks, its updated. Cron and a few other things removed. I think you'll find it acceptable now. Thanks to everyone who pointed this out.
benmorris 12y ago
Looking forward to reading the new one. I have been evaluating your company for a month now and had decided to move some sites over, however as your AUP is written they would be in violation (cron jobs).
- mp99e99 12y ago
  this was fixed, cron restriction removed.
Animats 12y ago
Thanks. I just sent in a query about that to your support email. How would you feel about someone who bought a large number of $0.99/month instances, all of which had lots of network traffic with each other and were often compute-bound? Like the things one routinely does on Amazon AWS. (I'm exploring the possibility of a new kind of service which requires each user to have their own private cloud server, with all the cloud servers talking to each other.)
- mp99e99 12y ago
  Can't handle it right now; we just launched and we're limiting one per customer to try to accommodate everyone.
srcmap 12y ago
mp99e99, I ran nginx as proxy + one web app in a DO instance. CPU usage always < 2% for the whole system and serving 20-40GB of mainly html,js, css, json per month. Do you consider the web app as background services? Is it ok to expand my next server instance to your solution per your biz model/AUP?
- srcmap 12y ago
  BTW, just checkout your price, features pages, like your medium instance features/price.
  - mp99e99 12y ago
    yes
- mp99e99 12y ago
  yes, we're fixing the AUP today to remove cron jobs. web app is acceptable. Sounds like a great use for one of our servers!
tomjen3 12y ago
I don't feel comfortable sharing my phone number with businesses because I have seen what they do to my email inbox. This has nothing to do with me being untrusthworthy and everything to do with _you_ being untrustworthy. Work on changing my perception of you, or don't.
dholowiski 12y ago
That's good... the cron job thing (which is bizzare by the way) is a show stopper for me but if that changes I'll be spinning up several servers for sure.

by mp99e99 12y ago

aroch 12y ago

So you tried to launch this with great fanfare and couldn't be bothered to review your AUP? Or the copy in most sections of your site (typos, unmatched tenses, random spaces or lack thereof)? Why should I trust you with my information if you can't even handle your own? What kind of abuse do you think it is preventing? How does it prevent abuse from anyone but the least motivated abuser? If I wanted to abuse your service, I could pay people $0.50 on mechanical turk to register accounts for me (indeed this is a fairly common low-skill-low-reward task on mturk). I'm sorry but this plus the launch of your HIPAA hosting, which was also plagued by typos and wrong ToS, doesn't inspire any sort of confidence in your abilities at Atlantic.net.

icedchai 12y ago
It's sad that nobody reads AUPs, not even the people who write (or rather, copy/paste) them.
visarga 12y ago
> If I wanted to abuse your service, I could pay people $0.50 on mechanical turk to register accounts for me LOL. You want to use 1 petabyte for cheap?
- bmelton 12y ago
  They're offering a Terabyte for 0.99 cents. It doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to assume that they'd be most attractive to people who wanted lots of capacity for a low price. If using the service that Atlantic is offering is going to somehow bankrupt them, then perhaps they shouldn't offer it.
  - TomGullen 12y ago
    Upload rate would probably be restricted making it unviable as say a download server

blhack 12y ago

Who wrote this? Why did something about cron jobs even make it into the AUP?

girvo 12y ago
Shared hosting providers often don't allow background tasks, so I'd guess that's where it came from.

aroch 12y ago

Why does 'your' AUP contain the same errors present in an AUP written in 2007? https://web.archive.org/web/20141001003619/http://www.pslhosting.com/announcements.php?id=1 https://web.archive.org/web/20141001003619/http://www.pslhos... Edit: Jesus the more I dig into this the more worried I become about what the hell kind of business you're running. Assuming you're on the only one to use the `mp99e99` handle with any regularity, I'm greatly concerned.

wosos 12y ago

I'm about to get signed up and start recommending this to a few small business, I'll be looking forward to this change on the AUP. Thank you for your response.

mp99e99 12y ago
thanks, its updated. Cron and a few other things removed. I think you'll find it acceptable now. Thanks to everyone who pointed this out.

benmorris 12y ago

Looking forward to reading the new one. I have been evaluating your company for a month now and had decided to move some sites over, however as your AUP is written they would be in violation (cron jobs).

mp99e99 12y ago
this was fixed, cron restriction removed.

Animats 12y ago

Thanks. I just sent in a query about that to your support email. How would you feel about someone who bought a large number of $0.99/month instances, all of which had lots of network traffic with each other and were often compute-bound? Like the things one routinely does on Amazon AWS. (I'm exploring the possibility of a new kind of service which requires each user to have their own private cloud server, with all the cloud servers talking to each other.)

mp99e99 12y ago
Can't handle it right now; we just launched and we're limiting one per customer to try to accommodate everyone.

srcmap 12y ago

mp99e99, I ran nginx as proxy + one web app in a DO instance. CPU usage always < 2% for the whole system and serving 20-40GB of mainly html,js, css, json per month. Do you consider the web app as background services? Is it ok to expand my next server instance to your solution per your biz model/AUP?

srcmap 12y ago
BTW, just checkout your price, features pages, like your medium instance features/price.
- mp99e99 12y ago
  yes
mp99e99 12y ago
yes, we're fixing the AUP today to remove cron jobs. web app is acceptable. Sounds like a great use for one of our servers!

tomjen3 12y ago

I don't feel comfortable sharing my phone number with businesses because I have seen what they do to my email inbox. This has nothing to do with me being untrusthworthy and everything to do with _you_ being untrustworthy. Work on changing my perception of you, or don't.

dholowiski 12y ago

That's good... the cron job thing (which is bizzare by the way) is a show stopper for me but if that changes I'll be spinning up several servers for sure.