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Not included in the transcript is something they mentioned in the podcast is that they feel that the companies management is very much run like a startup with f

by Hansi 12y ago

Not included in the transcript is something they mentioned in the podcast is that they feel that the companies management is very much run like a startup with few people in charge sending direct e-mails not only to their direct reports but to anyone within the company. Seems to me that what might solve some of this e-mail craziness would be to realize better that they are a big company and do more delegation, perhaps to different time zones if they need to have a 24 hour work cycle but more realistically just stop this nonsense and hopefully change the culture to be more logical. At my company e-mail is something where you expect acknowledgement within 24-48 hours depending on urgency with answers provided on a best availability schedule. Managers also take on fielding a lot of stuff being directed to their reports because they have aggregate knowledge and let's face it distributing a developer for trivial stuff leads to pointless productivity loss.

robotresearcher 12y ago
> hopefully change the culture to be more logical. And why exactly would they do that? It seems to be working out pretty well for them. I'm not arguing that the culture is good in any transcending way, but it would be hard to argue that it's not working.
- Hansi 12y ago
  Yes that's a point I was expecting to be raised after I wrote the above comment as is normal with any Apple post, "Hey there doing great why change anything", but I'd argue that yes things are working out great for them now but it's clearly costing the employees a portion of their personal life and I feel that given how well off the company is it shouldn't be needed. In the podcast these ex Apple employees also mention being glad to be out of Apple because of issues like this, so provided that they move away from this culture they may see better employee retention for mid tier employees rather than having people burn out and leave the company.

by Hansi 12y ago

robotresearcher 12y ago

> hopefully change the culture to be more logical. And why exactly would they do that? It seems to be working out pretty well for them. I'm not arguing that the culture is good in any transcending way, but it would be hard to argue that it's not working.

Hansi 12y ago
Yes that's a point I was expecting to be raised after I wrote the above comment as is normal with any Apple post, "Hey there doing great why change anything", but I'd argue that yes things are working out great for them now but it's clearly costing the employees a portion of their personal life and I feel that given how well off the company is it shouldn't be needed. In the podcast these ex Apple employees also mention being glad to be out of Apple because of issues like this, so provided that they move away from this culture they may see better employee retention for mid tier employees rather than having people burn out and leave the company.