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Windows 10 is the official name for Microsoft's next version of Windows
- amaks 12y agoOr is it Windows X?
- belzebub 12y agoWindows 10.1, Windows 10.2 I think I've seen this somewhere before...
- WorldWideWayne 12y agoArcGIS from ESRI? (It's for Windows only, you may not have heard of it ;)
- snarfy 12y agoThey probably would have used that if it weren't for the x windowing system.
- izolate 12y agoWindows X codename Cheetah
- flipcoder 12y agoThey had to distance themselves from 8.
- xtrumanx 12y agoIs 8 have that bad of a reputation. I bought a laptop last year and once I figured out how to get it to start on desktop mode I've been happily using 8 like I was 7. Barely spend anytime in the Start screen. What else is there that people don't like about 8?
- Narretz 12y agoPeople who are still on Win7 mostly associate it with the death of the start menu. What's more, for desktop users it barely has any huge improvements over 7. At least that's my impression.
- freehunter 12y agoI always know I'm using Windows 7 at work because I really miss the much improved task manager and file transfer screen that Windows 8 has. Plus I'm running an anti-virus. That's a big tell than you're on an outdated OS.
- Igglyboo 12y agoLove the look of the start menu.
- VikingCoder 12y agoNope, it's actually "9", but it's expressed in Base 9, so, "10". We should all refuse to call it anything other than "Windows 9 base 9".
- fenomas 12y agoI'd prefer "Windows 10 base 10, base 9"
- html5web 12y agoLol! Where is Windows 9?
- msie 12y agoI don't like the appearance of Live Tiles in the Start Menu. They aren't really related functions. It's a compromise.
- morley 12y agoI kind of like it. It makes sense for something like Weather, which is information you want at-a-glance but you don't want to see all the time like on the start screen. On previous versions of Windows, there'd be links to My Documents and Control Panel and such, but I'd rather use search to find that stuff.
- arenaninja 12y agoIf links to Documents and Control Panel can be added via those tiles, I think we'd have a win-win
- TheSoftwareGuy 12y agoYeah, It would be nice to have things like CPU usage and RAM available at a glance sometimes.
- Eric_WVGG 12y agothere was a massive internal debate to talk the marketing dept down from naming it Windows 10 Live Active Desktop 2015 Home Edition
- pdabbadabba 12y agoThey have pretty good marketing people. I imagine that debate would usually go in the opposite direction from the one you describe.
- mtmail 12y agoI'm sure there will be enough editions to confuse the average buyer. And different upgrade paths. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_c...
- freehunter 12y agoThe average buyer isn't confused by which version to use. They use the one that comes with their computer, or if they really want to upgrade on the same computer, the one that is on the shelf at Best Buy.
- rpeden 12y agoGo easy on them. They're just trying to catch up with OS X!
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- ww520 12y agoWhat is wrong with Windows 9? Why don't Microsoft win by merit instead of silly marketing naming game?
- freehunter 12y agoWhat is wrong with Mac OS11? Apple keeps going with OSX because it's so marketable. What is wrong with Linux kernel 2.6? Linus bumped the version number purely for marketing (after saying he would not bump the version number). Version numbers are pure marketing anyway.
- rnernento 12y agoFrom the people who brought you the Xbox 360 (2nd Xbox) and the Xbox One (3rd Xbox)...
- jasonkostempski 12y agoWas 7 really called 7 because it was the 7th version of the NT kernel? If so, then 7, 8, 8.1(9), 10 makes sense sorta kinda.
- vernie 12y ago2000 (5), XP (5.1), Vista (6), 7 (6.1), 8 (6.2), 8.1 (6.3)
- trurl42 12y agoAnd Windows 10 will be 6.4. It just doesn't make any sense.
- Arnavion 12y agoOne popular theory is that there is software out there that checks for Windows version == 6 instead of >= 6 when deciding to enable features for Vista and above. This was definitely true of libcurl at one point, for example.
- hamburglar 12y agoIn that case, my vote is for Windows X to be version 6.3.1.
- bitwize 12y agoWindows 7 was NT 6.1. Windows 8 was NT 6.2. They were called that because marketing.
- acheron 12y agoThere was never really any consistent list of Windows versions you could come up with that would lead to "Windows 7" actually being the 7th version. So it's not like the numbers mean much anyway. Why not 10? [1] [1] Maybe they should have gone for 11, since it's one more.
- pyrocat 12y agohttps://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/516998685386100736 https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/516998685386100736
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- detour 12y agoTaking a cue from the PHP internals team.
- spain 12y ago"Maybe if we skip a version number, they'll think it's an even newer and better version..." No but my guess is that 8 bombed so hard that they didn't want to sell it as 9 since that would make it specifically a successor to 8 (which it is, but we wouldn't want the consumers to know). Same way we got 7 instead of Vista 2 or whatever. They want 10 to seem like a new hip thing instead of a desperate attempt to fix their mess.
- hamburglar 12y agoOf course, they'll probably undermine their claims of it being leaps and bounds past 8 by making the internal version 6.4
- Eyas 12y agoThis feels embarrassingly cringe-worthy. Did they just skip a number for no reason? What's wrong with Windows 9? Too simple?
- arcticfox 12y agoPutting the same Windows on all devices is a pretty amazing achievement. From a marketing point of view, it seems logical to stamp it with a milestone version number too. Particularly one with a little distance from 8...
- xtrumanx 12y agoI doubt its the going to be the "same" Windows on all devices considering all the different device architectures involved. At best they'll all feel the same which is great but would probably be just as much of a hassle from a developer point-of-view.
- cobalt 12y agothe WinRT architecture is using .net (more or less) so developing for different type basically only requires different inputs and displays. everything else is more or less exactly the same
- arcticfox 12y ago"As part of that, the company has reiterated its commitment to creating a single app Store across all of its devices. Windows 10 will work across all form-factors and as such, developers will only need to code once but they’ll be able to target any device." http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-one-app-store-across-all-devices http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-one-app-store-across-a...
- pdabbadabba 12y agoMy guess is that they skipped 9 to demonstrate just how much better than Windows 8 this release will (they hope) be. And I must say, as a bit of marketing I think it's not bad -- it (and the release of 8.1) really makes you feel like they take the criticisms of Windows 8 very seriously. It remains to be seen, of course, whether they can put that into practice. Also 7 8 9.
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- adamnemecek 12y agoLol there was an April fools' article last year saying the same thing http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft-windows/microsoft-skips--too-good--windows-9--jumps-to-windows-10.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft-windows/m...
- pyrocat 12y ago"We believe that, together with the feedback you provide us, we can build a product that all of our customers will love," Myerson said. "It will be our most open collaborate OS projects ever." followed by Q: When it comes to your enterprise customers about Windows 10. How big has the push back been to get Windows away from Live Tiles, back to Windows 7 stuff? A: We don't hear pushback that we don't like Live Tiles. We hear pushback about too much training. So basically "together with your feedback" means "we'll ignore your feedback if it conflicts with a design decision we've already made"
- Eyas 12y agoNot sure why you would draw that conclusion. Do you really think people have a problem with the live tiles themselves? That's like saying users are opposed to "icons". Live Tiles are simply icons on steroids. The Q&A sounded to me like he's saying there's nothing wrong with the Live Tiles, but the UI was simply not lernable especially the dichotomy between tablet/desktop mode. They want to fix the latter problem, but don't see a need to ditch live tiles.
- pyrocat 12y agoLive tiles were one of the most contentious parts of Windows 8!
- Eyas 12y agoMy impression has always been that people misuse the term live tiles to mean the general interface. While I've heard people complain about about the "live tile interface", I don't think I've actually heard a complaint about live tiles vs static icons.
- pyrocat 12y agoThen why would the interviewer specifically bring them up as an example of what people have complained about?
- michaelwww 12y agoThey're not taking any chances. From Wikipedia: "The Japanese consider nine to be unlucky because in Japanese the word for nine sounds similar to the word for "pain" or "distress"
- zuck9 12y ago"Q: Now it's Windows 10, will we see future versions named after big cats? A: Probably not."
- razster 12y agoGuy needs a hair cut.
- Narretz 12y agoAlthough Belfiore stresses that this preview only shows a glimpse of the changes in Win10, it's striking that it only shows that Microsoft is making it more like "classic" Windows again. To be honest, apps run now in normal windows - this is such a no-brainer, it should have been there from the start.