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They politely limit participation to serious devs with this field on the form: "I have an existing HTML5 app that I will port to Firefox OS for Matchstick" with

They politely limit participation to serious devs with this field on the form: "I have an existing HTML5 app that I will port to Firefox OS for Matchstick" with only one option: Yes. Well, I could certainly edit the DOM and fill in my own answer >:) but I don't have an HTML5 web app. Fortunately, the same equipment seems to be available via their kickstarter for $24. What the heck is this? http://www.matchstick.tv/developers/hardware-apply-check.html http://www.matchstick.tv/developers/hardware-apply-check.htm... An EULA?

ajb 12y ago
"you hereby agree to be bound by Matchstick’s mandatory and automatic software upgrade mechanism to upgrade the trial version of the SDK to the production version of the SDK" That's unusually peremptory for mozilla. I don't get why it's necessary, either.
- j_s 12y ago
  This is not a Mozilla project; it is an embedded device using Mozilla's Firefox OS.
  - ajb 12y ago
    Thanks; you're right, I missed that.
daveloyall 12y ago
"You may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of any software or software components of the Matchstick software including the Matchstick SDK software." ...said the makers of a supposedly open software/hardware device. The Free Software movement needs a mechanism for dealing with heretics. I propose a holiday. Let's call it "Punch Free-software/hardware Posers in the Face Day". The inaugural event should be held on 9/30/2016. More than enough time for everyone to get the memo. Then if they get punched, it's their fault.
- DannyBee 12y ago
  This EULA is weird and has some drafting issues :) First, if there is any GPL/LGPL code in there, that term would be a license violation (and for GPLv2/LGPLv2, actually auto-terminate the license). This includes things like "glibc" . It's really hard to build a kernel space and userspace that doesn't require GPL/LGPL code, and works really well. I'm skeptical they did it (certainly, nobody else who produces streaming sticks does it). Second, it says "2. All source codes provided by Matchstick shall be granted to you under the Mozilla Public License (MPL) Version 2.0. You hereby agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of the MPL 2.0 for any software and source code provided by Matchstick." This would also be highly problematic if it includes code under any other license. Plus, the last line, humorously, goes from talking about sourc e code, to saying you agree to be bound to MPL 2.0 for software and source code provided by matchstick. While likely a drafting mistake, given the EULA has no integration clause, i wonder what the effect would be.
  - daveloyall 12y ago
    My guess is that Mozilla doesn't know about this.
    - smacktoward 12y ago
      Then they should probably read the EULA before promoting the project on Mozilla.org, no?
      - daveloyall 12y ago
        I hopped into the #b2g irc channel and mentioned this thread. A user told me that s/he has notified someone who might be able to do something about it. I guess they have a bug/ticket open somewhere which they use to track "brand use" issues. In my mind, the appropriate outcome is that the EULA be removed. It's obviously the work of someone attempting to cover their bases while not being knowledgeable about software licensing.
        12y ago

ajb 12y ago

"you hereby agree to be bound by Matchstick’s mandatory and automatic software upgrade mechanism to upgrade the trial version of the SDK to the production version of the SDK" That's unusually peremptory for mozilla. I don't get why it's necessary, either.

j_s 12y ago
This is not a Mozilla project; it is an embedded device using Mozilla's Firefox OS.
- ajb 12y ago
  Thanks; you're right, I missed that.

daveloyall 12y ago

"You may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of any software or software components of the Matchstick software including the Matchstick SDK software." ...said the makers of a supposedly open software/hardware device. The Free Software movement needs a mechanism for dealing with heretics. I propose a holiday. Let's call it "Punch Free-software/hardware Posers in the Face Day". The inaugural event should be held on 9/30/2016. More than enough time for everyone to get the memo. Then if they get punched, it's their fault.

DannyBee 12y ago
This EULA is weird and has some drafting issues :) First, if there is any GPL/LGPL code in there, that term would be a license violation (and for GPLv2/LGPLv2, actually auto-terminate the license). This includes things like "glibc" . It's really hard to build a kernel space and userspace that doesn't require GPL/LGPL code, and works really well. I'm skeptical they did it (certainly, nobody else who produces streaming sticks does it). Second, it says "2. All source codes provided by Matchstick shall be granted to you under the Mozilla Public License (MPL) Version 2.0. You hereby agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of the MPL 2.0 for any software and source code provided by Matchstick." This would also be highly problematic if it includes code under any other license. Plus, the last line, humorously, goes from talking about sourc e code, to saying you agree to be bound to MPL 2.0 for software and source code provided by matchstick. While likely a drafting mistake, given the EULA has no integration clause, i wonder what the effect would be.
- daveloyall 12y ago
  My guess is that Mozilla doesn't know about this.
  - smacktoward 12y ago
    Then they should probably read the EULA before promoting the project on Mozilla.org, no?
    - daveloyall 12y ago
      I hopped into the #b2g irc channel and mentioned this thread. A user told me that s/he has notified someone who might be able to do something about it. I guess they have a bug/ticket open somewhere which they use to track "brand use" issues. In my mind, the appropriate outcome is that the EULA be removed. It's obviously the work of someone attempting to cover their bases while not being knowledgeable about software licensing.
      - 12y ago