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> after putting it in my back pocket and sitting down on it > the bending issue is very real I'd suggest that the issue is that you're a guy who thinks sittin

> after putting it in my back pocket and sitting down on it > the bending issue is very real I'd suggest that the issue is that you're a guy who thinks sitting on $1,000 of glass and aluminium is a normal thing to do.

stevewepay 12y ago
I did this all the time with my iPhone 3, 4 and 5 without any issues which is why it developed into a habit. The fact that I can't do that with the iPhone 6 is a surprise and disappointment.
- baddox 12y ago
  There are lots of bad ideas that can be performed many times before they become a problem.
- ghshephard 12y ago
  I'm with the parent. If you think sitting on a phone in your back pocket is a problem, I don't think the solution is a "stronger phone."
  - hnal943 12y ago
    You're wrong. I also do this all the time and if my phone broke I'd be outraged because every phone built before the iphone 6 can handle that kind of stress. The phone is the outlier, not the use case.
    - Jtsummers 12y ago
      Eh. I (until recently) weighed around 220lbs. I would not have been surprised if any phone I sat on [0] broke or was otherwise damaged. Especially with the way that anything in a back pocket gets flexed. It's not just the weight placed on it, it's the tension from conforming to the shape of your body along with the pants. I guess if I had no ass, or weighed much less, or like some coworkers wear pants so low that the back pocket is actually behind the thigh it might not be a big deal. [0] This also depends on the seat. My couch at home is very cushy, it'd be hard to break it there. But my kitchen table chair is little more than a slat of wood cut to a comfortable shape.
    - CountSessine 12y ago
      Not really, no. My ex-wife always sat with her 3 in her back jeans pocket because fashion designers refuse to put sensible front pockets on women's jeans. The 3's case began to crack at the top around the power button after a while. And this is a girl sitting on her phone - not some 200lbs guy. And I certainly wouldn't sit on my nexus 5 or the SGS4 that it replaced.
    - ghshephard 12y ago
      I'm 185 pounds, and I'm absolutely confident that if I ever placed any of my iPhones in my back jeans pocket and sat on it, it would be destroyed in under a month. It has a glass screen, that alone should make it obvious that you shouldn't sit on it.
  - _broody 12y ago
    Older iphones were recently rated by Consumer Report to be about twice as resistant to bending from pressure and might well have endured this with ease. Also, the gorilla glass screen may have been less scratch resistant (though more than good enough), but it is less prone to shattering too. So once people may have fixed certain expectations about the durability of an iPhone. But those will have to be revised with the new models.
stronglikedan 12y ago
I've sat on my Note 3 (sans any type of case) more times than I can remember, and have never even so much as scratched it.
- johndolan 12y ago
  Out of curiosity, why not put your phone in the front pocket?
  - stronglikedan 12y ago
    I keep my phone in my front pocket 90% of the time. However, there's been a number of times where I've been distracted, and have slipped it in my back pocket just before sitting on it, such as finishing a conversation just before getting into the car or working on something that may get my front wet, like gardening. It's a nice adrenaline rush feeling it under me all of a sudden, but, thankfully, I've never inflicted damage like that.
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  - overgryphon 12y ago
    Because half the population doesn't have front pockets that fit phones, and sometimes your purse is slightly out of reach.
    - u124556 12y ago
      You don't have to be part of that half of the population.
      - sliverstorm 12y ago
        You make it sound like it's elective...?
        stephencanon 12y ago
atourgates 12y ago
Well - the issue isn't that it's a good idea to sit on a iPhone, the issue is that this iPhone seems to be less durable than previous iPhones, where nearly every other model was an upgrade in terms of durability.
- Semaphor 12y ago
  I get the feeling some people are too far up there to realize that.
vadman 12y ago
Not to mention that sitting on things in back pockets is bad for you: http://www.osteochirocentre.co.uk/practice-news/company-news/dont-sit-wallet http://www.osteochirocentre.co.uk/practice-news/company-news...
richardjs 12y ago
When did durability stop being a factor used to assess a phone's quality? As someone who is somewhat accident prone (and who doesn't want to spend too much time fretting about protecting my phone), it's something I care about. Granted, I don't this should be as big of an issue as some people are making it out to be, but I think the discussion should go beyond chastising owners for putting their phones in the wrong pocket. That's not much better than saying "you're holding it wrong." If the back pocket is "not supported", that's fine, but when support is pulled on anything that people use, (however obscure or unwise its use may be), there's going to be friction.
- CountSessine 12y ago
  When did durability stop being a factor used to assess a phone's quality? When consumers expressed a clear preference for big, thin phones that offer a lot of mechanical advantage to their round butts when sitting on them. it's something I care about But not enough to buy a smaller, more durable phone? One with a thick, rubber or plastic exterior case? No? I didn't think so. That's not much better than saying "you're holding it wrong." Maybe people should take personal responsibility for breaking their belongings?
  - richardjs 12y ago
    But not enough to buy a smaller, more durable phone? One with a thick, rubber or plastic exterior case? No? I didn't think so. I only just recently upgraded from an old feature phone to a Moto G. One of the major reasons I selected it was its relative cost versus other phones, and thus less worrying on my part about it (also, it was the cheapest phone Republic Wireless was offering). While that's not specifically buying based on durability, it's the same idea of being concerned about how much money you've sunk versus how easily it will break. Even still, I don't go sitting on it (or, if I discover I'm sitting on it, I immediately cease the sitting action). I'm not arguing Apple should refund these people for their bent phones or anything, and I agree that people should take personal responsibility for their actions. I'm just fine with the potential lack of durability being discussed, which is the issue stevewepay originally mentioned. EDIT: Upon further thinking, I agree that my comparison to "you're holding it wrong" is somewhat mistaken. While the grip one uses on a phone doesn't have any common-sense effects, putting a phone in your back pocket and sitting on it should have clear potential consequences, even if phones of the past typically had the durability to withstand it.
sliverstorm 12y ago
He didn't say it was normal. We stick things in our pockets and forget about them. It happens. This is where the marketing concept of "life-proof" comes from. Shit happens. Day-to-day consumer devices are going to get bumped, dropped, damp, sat on, etc. If the iPhone can't handle those things, the answer isn't "Be more careful you idiots", the answer is people will (presumably) stop buying them.
- CountSessine 12y ago
  "life-proof", as in "sitting down on a hard chair with your 6 inch smartphone in your back jeans pocket", conflicts with the clear and unmistakable consumer preference for "big and thin". In FantasyLand, engineers could create phones with 8 inch displays that were still somehow useable with one hand, and you could run over them with your car ("life-proof" - oopsies!) and they'd be ok. In the meantime, put your money where your mouth is and buy a smaller, more durable phone like an iPhone 5.
  - sliverstorm 12y ago
    Well, I put my money where my mouth is and bought a Moto G. It's smaller and quite durable for a smartphone. Acceptable? "life-proof" is kind of a silly term, I agree. But as much as you might want to mock people who do not baby their smartphone like a delicate glass flower, they are most of the market.
_superposition_ 12y ago
To say you can't or shouldn't put your phone in your pocket is ridiculous. It is quite possibly the most common use case for a phone, and the design should take that into account. Full stop. The RDS is strong here, my friend.
- nilkn 12y ago
  I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pants have pockets that don't require you to sit on their contents when sitting down. I've never sat on my smartphones before, whether they were large or small. And I've always kept my smartphones in my pocket.
- georgespencer 12y ago
  Nobody is saying you can't put it in your pocket. What they're saying is that you can't sit on it.
cheshire137 12y ago
I've accidentally sat down with my Nexus 5 in my back pocket before and it's been fine. Sometimes you leave your phone in your back pocket and forget about it.

stevewepay 12y ago

I did this all the time with my iPhone 3, 4 and 5 without any issues which is why it developed into a habit. The fact that I can't do that with the iPhone 6 is a surprise and disappointment.

baddox 12y ago
There are lots of bad ideas that can be performed many times before they become a problem.
ghshephard 12y ago
I'm with the parent. If you think sitting on a phone in your back pocket is a problem, I don't think the solution is a "stronger phone."
- hnal943 12y ago
  You're wrong. I also do this all the time and if my phone broke I'd be outraged because every phone built before the iphone 6 can handle that kind of stress. The phone is the outlier, not the use case.
  - Jtsummers 12y ago
    Eh. I (until recently) weighed around 220lbs. I would not have been surprised if any phone I sat on [0] broke or was otherwise damaged. Especially with the way that anything in a back pocket gets flexed. It's not just the weight placed on it, it's the tension from conforming to the shape of your body along with the pants. I guess if I had no ass, or weighed much less, or like some coworkers wear pants so low that the back pocket is actually behind the thigh it might not be a big deal. [0] This also depends on the seat. My couch at home is very cushy, it'd be hard to break it there. But my kitchen table chair is little more than a slat of wood cut to a comfortable shape.
  - CountSessine 12y ago
    Not really, no. My ex-wife always sat with her 3 in her back jeans pocket because fashion designers refuse to put sensible front pockets on women's jeans. The 3's case began to crack at the top around the power button after a while. And this is a girl sitting on her phone - not some 200lbs guy. And I certainly wouldn't sit on my nexus 5 or the SGS4 that it replaced.
  - ghshephard 12y ago
    I'm 185 pounds, and I'm absolutely confident that if I ever placed any of my iPhones in my back jeans pocket and sat on it, it would be destroyed in under a month. It has a glass screen, that alone should make it obvious that you shouldn't sit on it.
- _broody 12y ago
  Older iphones were recently rated by Consumer Report to be about twice as resistant to bending from pressure and might well have endured this with ease. Also, the gorilla glass screen may have been less scratch resistant (though more than good enough), but it is less prone to shattering too. So once people may have fixed certain expectations about the durability of an iPhone. But those will have to be revised with the new models.

stronglikedan 12y ago

I've sat on my Note 3 (sans any type of case) more times than I can remember, and have never even so much as scratched it.

johndolan 12y ago
Out of curiosity, why not put your phone in the front pocket?
- stronglikedan 12y ago
  I keep my phone in my front pocket 90% of the time. However, there's been a number of times where I've been distracted, and have slipped it in my back pocket just before sitting on it, such as finishing a conversation just before getting into the car or working on something that may get my front wet, like gardening. It's a nice adrenaline rush feeling it under me all of a sudden, but, thankfully, I've never inflicted damage like that.
- deleted 12y ago
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- overgryphon 12y ago
  Because half the population doesn't have front pockets that fit phones, and sometimes your purse is slightly out of reach.
  - u124556 12y ago
    You don't have to be part of that half of the population.
    - sliverstorm 12y ago
      You make it sound like it's elective...?
      - stephencanon 12y ago

atourgates 12y ago

Well - the issue isn't that it's a good idea to sit on a iPhone, the issue is that this iPhone seems to be less durable than previous iPhones, where nearly every other model was an upgrade in terms of durability.

Semaphor 12y ago
I get the feeling some people are too far up there to realize that.

vadman 12y ago

Not to mention that sitting on things in back pockets is bad for you: http://www.osteochirocentre.co.uk/practice-news/company-news/dont-sit-wallet http://www.osteochirocentre.co.uk/practice-news/company-news...

richardjs 12y ago

When did durability stop being a factor used to assess a phone's quality? As someone who is somewhat accident prone (and who doesn't want to spend too much time fretting about protecting my phone), it's something I care about. Granted, I don't this should be as big of an issue as some people are making it out to be, but I think the discussion should go beyond chastising owners for putting their phones in the wrong pocket. That's not much better than saying "you're holding it wrong." If the back pocket is "not supported", that's fine, but when support is pulled on anything that people use, (however obscure or unwise its use may be), there's going to be friction.

CountSessine 12y ago
When did durability stop being a factor used to assess a phone's quality? When consumers expressed a clear preference for big, thin phones that offer a lot of mechanical advantage to their round butts when sitting on them. it's something I care about But not enough to buy a smaller, more durable phone? One with a thick, rubber or plastic exterior case? No? I didn't think so. That's not much better than saying "you're holding it wrong." Maybe people should take personal responsibility for breaking their belongings?
- richardjs 12y ago
  But not enough to buy a smaller, more durable phone? One with a thick, rubber or plastic exterior case? No? I didn't think so. I only just recently upgraded from an old feature phone to a Moto G. One of the major reasons I selected it was its relative cost versus other phones, and thus less worrying on my part about it (also, it was the cheapest phone Republic Wireless was offering). While that's not specifically buying based on durability, it's the same idea of being concerned about how much money you've sunk versus how easily it will break. Even still, I don't go sitting on it (or, if I discover I'm sitting on it, I immediately cease the sitting action). I'm not arguing Apple should refund these people for their bent phones or anything, and I agree that people should take personal responsibility for their actions. I'm just fine with the potential lack of durability being discussed, which is the issue stevewepay originally mentioned. EDIT: Upon further thinking, I agree that my comparison to "you're holding it wrong" is somewhat mistaken. While the grip one uses on a phone doesn't have any common-sense effects, putting a phone in your back pocket and sitting on it should have clear potential consequences, even if phones of the past typically had the durability to withstand it.

sliverstorm 12y ago

He didn't say it was normal. We stick things in our pockets and forget about them. It happens. This is where the marketing concept of "life-proof" comes from. Shit happens. Day-to-day consumer devices are going to get bumped, dropped, damp, sat on, etc. If the iPhone can't handle those things, the answer isn't "Be more careful you idiots", the answer is people will (presumably) stop buying them.

CountSessine 12y ago
"life-proof", as in "sitting down on a hard chair with your 6 inch smartphone in your back jeans pocket", conflicts with the clear and unmistakable consumer preference for "big and thin". In FantasyLand, engineers could create phones with 8 inch displays that were still somehow useable with one hand, and you could run over them with your car ("life-proof" - oopsies!) and they'd be ok. In the meantime, put your money where your mouth is and buy a smaller, more durable phone like an iPhone 5.
- sliverstorm 12y ago
  Well, I put my money where my mouth is and bought a Moto G. It's smaller and quite durable for a smartphone. Acceptable? "life-proof" is kind of a silly term, I agree. But as much as you might want to mock people who do not baby their smartphone like a delicate glass flower, they are most of the market.

_superposition_ 12y ago

To say you can't or shouldn't put your phone in your pocket is ridiculous. It is quite possibly the most common use case for a phone, and the design should take that into account. Full stop. The RDS is strong here, my friend.

nilkn 12y ago
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pants have pockets that don't require you to sit on their contents when sitting down. I've never sat on my smartphones before, whether they were large or small. And I've always kept my smartphones in my pocket.
georgespencer 12y ago
Nobody is saying you can't put it in your pocket. What they're saying is that you can't sit on it.

cheshire137 12y ago

I've accidentally sat down with my Nexus 5 in my back pocket before and it's been fine. Sometimes you leave your phone in your back pocket and forget about it.