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What are some alternatives to Loggly? I really like being able to aggregate my logs with minimal setup (and cost). I'm logging with Logback (Java), and there is

by ejain 12y ago

What are some alternatives to Loggly? I really like being able to aggregate my logs with minimal setup (and cost). I'm logging with Logback (Java), and there is a convenient extension that forwards log statements to Loggly.

renaud34 12y ago
There are definitely some like Logentries or Sumologic. But the best I have seen so far is logmatic.io - to be honest I am working for them :). Our objective is to get one tool for all by allying the power of search with true business intelligence. Here is a video of our product as it was 6 months ago: http://bit.ly/logsjava http://bit.ly/logsjava. We are still in private beta and our prices are similar to Loggly and we already have tens of customers.
troydavis 12y ago
We just finished writing a syslog4j-derived Logback appender with support for UDP, TCP with TLS encryption, and cleartext TCP: Background and setup: http://help.papertrailapp.com/kb/configuration/java-logback-logging/ http://help.papertrailapp.com/kb/configuration/java-logback-... GitHub repo: https://github.com/papertrail/logback-syslog4j https://github.com/papertrail/logback-syslog4j Papertrail also works with the standard Logback SyslogAppender.
- ejain 12y ago
  Does the syslog appender handle large, multi-line log messages (i.e. messages containing stack traces)? I recall having some trouble with that when using syslog with Loggly, before switching over to the json appender.
  - troydavis 12y ago
    Short answer: it depends. Long answer: logback and both appenders can accept pattern formats to adjust how they're formatted. How useful the end result is depends a lot on the receiver, though, and more than that, there's no one implementation that's great for everyone -- that is, there's no right way to "handle large, multi-line log messages," only attempts at making them more useful. An easy example is searching. Some people want to see the entire message, others want only the matching portion of a stack trace, others want some combination, and others - probably most people - just want something that's useful, however the actual UX works. In Papertrail's case, our sender-specific context links (think grep -A/-B/-C) were designed for navigating multiline output from a single sender: https://papertrailapp.com/tour/viewer/context https://papertrailapp.com/tour/viewer/context. It's basically pivoting from a single entry in a stack trace to the entire stack trace.
    - ejain 12y ago
      My main concern isn't formatting or searching, but truncation, see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2011986/does-syslog-really-have-a-1kb-message-limit http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2011986/does-syslog-reall....
gk1 12y ago
Have a look at Scalyr: https://www.scalyr.com https://www.scalyr.com The setup is straightforward [0], and you'll find that the plans are very competitive. [0] https://www.scalyr.com/help/install-agent https://www.scalyr.com/help/install-agent (Full disclosure: I work with them.)
tkfx 12y ago
Hi ejain, check out this post by Takipi, the 7 log management tools you need to know: http://www.takipiblog.com/the-7-log-management-tools-you-need-to-know/ http://www.takipiblog.com/the-7-log-management-tools-you-nee...

by ejain 12y ago

renaud34 12y ago

There are definitely some like Logentries or Sumologic. But the best I have seen so far is logmatic.io - to be honest I am working for them :). Our objective is to get one tool for all by allying the power of search with true business intelligence. Here is a video of our product as it was 6 months ago: http://bit.ly/logsjava http://bit.ly/logsjava. We are still in private beta and our prices are similar to Loggly and we already have tens of customers.

troydavis 12y ago

We just finished writing a syslog4j-derived Logback appender with support for UDP, TCP with TLS encryption, and cleartext TCP: Background and setup: http://help.papertrailapp.com/kb/configuration/java-logback-logging/ http://help.papertrailapp.com/kb/configuration/java-logback-... GitHub repo: https://github.com/papertrail/logback-syslog4j https://github.com/papertrail/logback-syslog4j Papertrail also works with the standard Logback SyslogAppender.

ejain 12y ago
Does the syslog appender handle large, multi-line log messages (i.e. messages containing stack traces)? I recall having some trouble with that when using syslog with Loggly, before switching over to the json appender.
- troydavis 12y ago
  Short answer: it depends. Long answer: logback and both appenders can accept pattern formats to adjust how they're formatted. How useful the end result is depends a lot on the receiver, though, and more than that, there's no one implementation that's great for everyone -- that is, there's no right way to "handle large, multi-line log messages," only attempts at making them more useful. An easy example is searching. Some people want to see the entire message, others want only the matching portion of a stack trace, others want some combination, and others - probably most people - just want something that's useful, however the actual UX works. In Papertrail's case, our sender-specific context links (think grep -A/-B/-C) were designed for navigating multiline output from a single sender: https://papertrailapp.com/tour/viewer/context https://papertrailapp.com/tour/viewer/context. It's basically pivoting from a single entry in a stack trace to the entire stack trace.
  - ejain 12y ago
    My main concern isn't formatting or searching, but truncation, see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2011986/does-syslog-really-have-a-1kb-message-limit http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2011986/does-syslog-reall....

gk1 12y ago

Have a look at Scalyr: https://www.scalyr.com https://www.scalyr.com The setup is straightforward [0], and you'll find that the plans are very competitive. [0] https://www.scalyr.com/help/install-agent https://www.scalyr.com/help/install-agent (Full disclosure: I work with them.)

tkfx 12y ago

Hi ejain, check out this post by Takipi, the 7 log management tools you need to know: http://www.takipiblog.com/the-7-log-management-tools-you-need-to-know/ http://www.takipiblog.com/the-7-log-management-tools-you-nee...