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Former Loggly employee here. Loggly is at CTO #3 or 4 in about 3 years. The CEO, marketing guy with black turtle neck, "runs" engineering. It is NOT an engin
by former_loggly 12y ago
Former Loggly employee here. Loggly is at CTO #3 or 4 in about 3 years. The CEO, marketing guy with black turtle neck, "runs" engineering. It is NOT an engineering company and they are on their way to outsourcing all development to India.
Formally they had all of their EC2 instances configured to run without swap and didn't use EBS such that instances would crash 1-3 times a day and lose all data which would require 1-2 day customer restores of data.
Additionally, this Java shop oversubscribed threads on every Solr box which made them restart each Solr instance every hour. To think any revolutionary engineering ideas come from an former Apple marketing wannabee who puts outsourced Indian engineering in place as yes men is a huge stretch.
Let's be honest, Loggly is in huge trouble and can't hire quality engineering talent and as a result is trying to remarket themselves as an engineering driven company as they outsource to India.
Key question isn't..do you use DNS or Elastic Load Balance...it is...what is your VOLUNTARY RATE OF ATTRITION? Hint, really bad!
- hijinks 12y agoI interviewed there for a devops/sys admin role and ran far away after that process when I learned about what is going on and problems the ops group has to solve. Then reading this fluff piece made me glad I never even thought about working there after that phone interview. Whoever claims a DNS round robin is a good way to handle fail over doesn't really know what they are talking about. I have dug into the how something like rsyslog handles a dns request. My guess is it just passes it off to the OS. But what I got from this is loggly is ok with losing customer data
- riffraff 12y agocould you expand on what made you run away? i.e. what sort of problems which are tasked upon the ops group would make an ops person run away? This is unrelated to the loggly bit, it would just be interesting to know for a non-ops-guy.
- toomuchtodo 12y agoDevOps here. What was the red flag? (Curious for the next time I'm interviewing)
- boulos 12y agoI'm disappointed this is the top rated comment. Your repeated bigotry towards "outsourced Indian engineering" combined with using a throwaway detract from what appears to be potentially useful information (Loggly CTO changes, running without EBS and without swap, etc.). Can someone else corroborate the factual bits without the xenophobia?
- yid 12y agoOutsourced teams anywhere generally don't get much ownership of the product. What results is a bare minimum meet-the-specs effort, which is understandable but generally results in a crappy product. This is a reflection of the social and communication issues in typical outsourcing setups, not a reflection of the talent of the outsourced team.