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> Silk Road allows them to be distributed without any violence. Yeah, what's a few contract killings among friends...
by xorcist 12y ago
> Silk Road allows them to be distributed without any violence.
Yeah, what's a few contract killings among friends...
- Energy1 12y agoAny examples?
- vidarh 12y agoHe's presumably referring to the contract killings Ross Ulbricht is alleged to have tried to arrange.
- programmarchy 12y agoThis charge was dropped. In my opinion, it was a baseless charge in the first place, meant to poison the well against Ross.
- mikeyouse 12y agoIt wasn't dropped, I wish people would stop parroting that line. He was indicted in two separate jurisdictions, NY and Maryland. Maryland indicted him for 'Planned Violence' which includes one count of murder for hire. The NY charges are the ones that he's currently facing, the Maryland charges are still in the wings. http://freeross.org/correction-of-our-report-on-the-indictment/ http://freeross.org/correction-of-our-report-on-the-indictme...
- dmix 12y agoAnd he is innocent until proven guilty. So people should stick to that angle.
- s0uthPaw88 12y agohttp://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/21/alleged-silk-road-ross-ulbricht-creator-now-accused-of-six-murder-for-hires-denied-bail/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/21/alleged...
- ossreality 12y agowhich of course has fuck all to do with the actual drug sales?
- tedks 12y ago1. This is irrelevant to what I was discussing. No MDMA dealer is committing any violence. The fact that Ross Ulbricht's opsec was allegedly bad enough that he could be blackmailed isn't a general fact about darknet markets. 2. That entire exchange is totally trumped up. This is the exchange the complaint alleges occurs: BLACKMAILER: Pay me $X. I need it to pay DEBTOR. DPR: Let me speak to DEBTOR. DEBTOR: Hello, this is DEBTOR. DPR: I will pay you $X/4 to kill BLACKMAILER. DEBTOR: We want $X/3. DPR: I have had men killed for $X/5, but I will pay you $X/3. DEBTOR: It's done. Nice doing business with you. DPR: Likewise. As far as I'm aware, no actual murder victim has ever turned up, and none of the parties except Ross have been arrested. The exchange sounds much more like a negotiation tactic than an actual contract killing, and is much more reasonable if you read it as such. But of course this is irrelevant to people who want to use it to horns-effect anything within an arms reach of the greatest project in harm reduction the world has ever seen. To put it another way, people died this last year, this summer, this week probably, from bad drugs. There is no reason why the modern world cannot supply these drugs safely, and darknet markets seem to do a better job than anything else. But go ahead and parrot the DEA line. Just remember that those who aren't on the right side of history are inevitably on the wrong side of it.
- refurb 12y agoDidn't the FBI actually fake the person's death and send DPR photo of the "body"? That would suggest this was an actual murder for hire.