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I'm from Chinese mainland, a student at Shanghai.there is not even a piece of information about this leaked to the mainstream media. many of my classmates manag

by ant_sz 12y ago

I'm from Chinese mainland, a student at Shanghai.there is not even a piece of information about this leaked to the mainstream media. many of my classmates managed to get information from multiple sources but more have no idea what happened. it's quite strange that the blocking turns a political event into a technical one. I'm not a 100% supporter for the protest, but I extremely dislike the government's passion of blocking everying. it makes me feel hopeless in the country knowing more and more interesting things are becoming far away from us.

coupdejarnac 12y ago
From what I've gathered, even protests within mainland China do not make the news there. Unless the protests involve Uighurs or the Japanese embassy. I lived in Beijing from 2004 to 2006, and during my time there a bunch of websites became blocked, including Wikipedia. It drove me nuts.
- madaxe_again 12y ago
  They do occasionally - see last week's "terrorist attack" in Xinjiang.
khc 12y ago
I've seen screenshots of mainland media reporting the event as a massive celebration: https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10679979_10154614463520654_5806727090948545727_o.jpg https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/106...
- zby 12y ago
  That is not too bad - they'll probably not deploy army to crush celebrations after all. By the way - there is a great democratic potential in play: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201105/how-hunter-gatherers-maintained-their-egalitarian-ways http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201105/how...
gurkendoktor 12y ago
I have seen this in my Twitter stream today, and I can't really believe it - does the PRC state media really try to re-brand the photos as a "celebration"?? https://twitter.com/libdave/status/516281577001590785 https://twitter.com/libdave/status/516281577001590785 Then again, I think that's pretty much what they did with pictures from the Taipei student protests earlier this year... (Edit: Whoops, duplicate of a sibling post :) )
- spacehunt 12y ago
  Source: http://www.chinanews.com/shipin/cnstv/2014/09-26/news500277.shtml http://www.chinanews.com/shipin/cnstv/2014/09-26/news500277.... They actually got some "celebrators" standing in front of the protesters claiming everybody is having a party.
  - yskchu 12y ago
    Don't spread the FUD that others are creating. This is a picture of a separate celebration event from the 26th (Friday). It's part of the celebration events leading up to 1st Oct.
    - spacehunt 12y ago
      The students were already boycotting classes and attending the protests around the CGO on Friday.
curiousgeorge 12y ago
Why are you anything but a 100% supporter of democratic self-governance?
- JoeAltmaier 12y ago
  One reasonable train of thought is, that in a country containing a mix of several cultures with sharp divides, democracy will make 2nd-class citizens out of somebody - the tyranny of the majority will seriously rule. There are many forms of citizen-participatory government possible. A republic for instance (what you meant when you said democracy?) can have houses formed in a variety of ways to insure minorities are heard.

by ant_sz 12y ago

coupdejarnac 12y ago

From what I've gathered, even protests within mainland China do not make the news there. Unless the protests involve Uighurs or the Japanese embassy. I lived in Beijing from 2004 to 2006, and during my time there a bunch of websites became blocked, including Wikipedia. It drove me nuts.

madaxe_again 12y ago
They do occasionally - see last week's "terrorist attack" in Xinjiang.

khc 12y ago

I've seen screenshots of mainland media reporting the event as a massive celebration: https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10679979_10154614463520654_5806727090948545727_o.jpg https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/106...

zby 12y ago
That is not too bad - they'll probably not deploy army to crush celebrations after all. By the way - there is a great democratic potential in play: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201105/how-hunter-gatherers-maintained-their-egalitarian-ways http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201105/how...

gurkendoktor 12y ago

I have seen this in my Twitter stream today, and I can't really believe it - does the PRC state media really try to re-brand the photos as a "celebration"?? https://twitter.com/libdave/status/516281577001590785 https://twitter.com/libdave/status/516281577001590785 Then again, I think that's pretty much what they did with pictures from the Taipei student protests earlier this year... (Edit: Whoops, duplicate of a sibling post :) )

spacehunt 12y ago
Source: http://www.chinanews.com/shipin/cnstv/2014/09-26/news500277.shtml http://www.chinanews.com/shipin/cnstv/2014/09-26/news500277.... They actually got some "celebrators" standing in front of the protesters claiming everybody is having a party.
- yskchu 12y ago
  Don't spread the FUD that others are creating. This is a picture of a separate celebration event from the 26th (Friday). It's part of the celebration events leading up to 1st Oct.
  - spacehunt 12y ago
    The students were already boycotting classes and attending the protests around the CGO on Friday.

curiousgeorge 12y ago

Why are you anything but a 100% supporter of democratic self-governance?

JoeAltmaier 12y ago
One reasonable train of thought is, that in a country containing a mix of several cultures with sharp divides, democracy will make 2nd-class citizens out of somebody - the tyranny of the majority will seriously rule. There are many forms of citizen-participatory government possible. A republic for instance (what you meant when you said democracy?) can have houses formed in a variety of ways to insure minorities are heard.