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zealotry? It's one comment in an article dealing almost entirely with other issues. Github has become the de-facto place to put code that you want others to wo

zealotry? It's one comment in an article dealing almost entirely with other issues. Github has become the de-facto place to put code that you want others to work with, and it is a platform built to surface such projects and make them accessible in a consistent way. It's not the only such tool, but it is really familiar to a lot of people, and that makes collaboration slightly easier for those who are familiar with it.

raverbashing 12y ago
"Github has become the de-facto place to put code" Maybe in some districts of SF and SV, but apart from that, NO I love Github and I think that it is way better than most of "industry standarts" but amazingly, some people still use self hosted solutions, because they need it.
- CognitiveLens 12y ago
  full quote: "Github has become the de-facto place to put code that you want others to work with". Maybe I should clarify: "others" == "people who don't know or directly work with you" Self-hosted solutions do not make collaboration simpler (in an OSS context), which is the reasonable, non-zealous claim made by the article.
  - raverbashing 12y ago
    For the strict issue of sharing code with others (open to everybody), sure, Github is the best solution But this is not what the article was talking about, it was talking about collaboration with other file formats, so jumping to say Github is good (on what we already know it's good and does not correspond to the discussion) is a stretch
- eropple 12y ago
  I can't find a way to stretch the definition, for the kind of open-source projects he is very clearly discussing, that isn't some sort of reductivist #NotAllSourceRepositories or something.
freshhawk 12y ago
The author made "being on github" a hard requirement. I think it might have been made as a kind of shorthand for "on github or something equivalent" but you can't blame someone for taking the author at their word when they state it so plainly. And that stated sentiment is pretty insane.
mfisher87 12y ago
>"Github has become the de-facto place to put code that you want others to work with," I think maybe you meant to use a more general term like "source control" here. Because that's so wrong to say github is de-facto for collaboration. There are proprietary projects with their own source control everywhere and "not using github" is no concern for any of them. Source control came around long before source control front-ends, surprisingly. And, again, probably surprisingly, not everyone needs a front-end to actually work.
- angersock 12y ago
  Let's not mince words. Where else is that code being written, and what is it's volume of code compared to Github? SourceForge? CPAN? The OpenBSD CVS? Bitbucket? Google Code (lol)? I'd be genuinely surprised if you could show me a place with more repositories right now than Github--I'd love to see such a vibrant ecosystem!
  - raverbashing 12y ago
    No Linux distribution uses github. Same for FreeBSD/OpenBSD The Linux Kernel is there but development is not done there, it's merely a mirror. Gnome (https://git.gnome.org/browse/ https://git.gnome.org/browse/), KDE, XFCE (http://git.xfce.org/ http://git.xfce.org/) are not there. Nginx? Uses Mercurial http://nginx.org/en/download.html http://nginx.org/en/download.html Apache? Not there as well Gcc? LLvm? http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStarted.html#checkout http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStarted.html#checkout But the latest fad.js is in github so that's what people use, right?
    - angersock 12y ago
      So, you've listed like 5-10 projects, scattered across several services. Big projects which are important, don't get me wrong--but still outnumbered by the huge number of your "fad.js" projects. So, thanks for making my point I guess?

raverbashing 12y ago

"Github has become the de-facto place to put code" Maybe in some districts of SF and SV, but apart from that, NO I love Github and I think that it is way better than most of "industry standarts" but amazingly, some people still use self hosted solutions, because they need it.

CognitiveLens 12y ago
full quote: "Github has become the de-facto place to put code that you want others to work with". Maybe I should clarify: "others" == "people who don't know or directly work with you" Self-hosted solutions do not make collaboration simpler (in an OSS context), which is the reasonable, non-zealous claim made by the article.
- raverbashing 12y ago
  For the strict issue of sharing code with others (open to everybody), sure, Github is the best solution But this is not what the article was talking about, it was talking about collaboration with other file formats, so jumping to say Github is good (on what we already know it's good and does not correspond to the discussion) is a stretch
eropple 12y ago
I can't find a way to stretch the definition, for the kind of open-source projects he is very clearly discussing, that isn't some sort of reductivist #NotAllSourceRepositories or something.

freshhawk 12y ago

The author made "being on github" a hard requirement. I think it might have been made as a kind of shorthand for "on github or something equivalent" but you can't blame someone for taking the author at their word when they state it so plainly. And that stated sentiment is pretty insane.

mfisher87 12y ago

>"Github has become the de-facto place to put code that you want others to work with," I think maybe you meant to use a more general term like "source control" here. Because that's so wrong to say github is de-facto for collaboration. There are proprietary projects with their own source control everywhere and "not using github" is no concern for any of them. Source control came around long before source control front-ends, surprisingly. And, again, probably surprisingly, not everyone needs a front-end to actually work.

angersock 12y ago
Let's not mince words. Where else is that code being written, and what is it's volume of code compared to Github? SourceForge? CPAN? The OpenBSD CVS? Bitbucket? Google Code (lol)? I'd be genuinely surprised if you could show me a place with more repositories right now than Github--I'd love to see such a vibrant ecosystem!
- raverbashing 12y ago
  No Linux distribution uses github. Same for FreeBSD/OpenBSD The Linux Kernel is there but development is not done there, it's merely a mirror. Gnome (https://git.gnome.org/browse/ https://git.gnome.org/browse/), KDE, XFCE (http://git.xfce.org/ http://git.xfce.org/) are not there. Nginx? Uses Mercurial http://nginx.org/en/download.html http://nginx.org/en/download.html Apache? Not there as well Gcc? LLvm? http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStarted.html#checkout http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStarted.html#checkout But the latest fad.js is in github so that's what people use, right?
  - angersock 12y ago
    So, you've listed like 5-10 projects, scattered across several services. Big projects which are important, don't get me wrong--but still outnumbered by the huge number of your "fad.js" projects. So, thanks for making my point I guess?