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Programming Languages in a downward spiral

5 points by elisabeth 12y ago

elisabeth 12y ago
I have been programming in all of these for a couple of years now. A bit sad to see them go down the drain. Which languages are going up? Or is coding all in all going down?
- lutusp 12y ago
  The title is misleading. The linked chart doesn't measure use of programming languages, but online discussion of programming languages. Suppose a chart showed a decline in online discussion of sex -- would it be rational to assume on that basis that people were having less sex? Note the checkbox in the linked chart that identifies what it quantifies: "News Headlines". The map is not the territory, and headlines aren't reality.
  - y4mi 12y ago
    > Suppose a chart showed a decline in online discussion of sex -- would it be rational to assume on that basis that people were having less sex? yes. but you could argue that the code quality increases because there are fewer newcomers
lutusp 12y ago
The chart doesn't measure programming languages, it measures online discussion of programming languages. To support the title's thesis, one would have to prove a connection between uses of programming languages and discussion of programming languages.
iammyIP 12y ago
Regarding that since 2005 many more people have gotten access to the internet, it may be unavoidable that the percentage of people directly interested in programming specific articles corrects itself to a normal level that reflects interest measured over the whole population, instead of only a special group of tech enthusiasts. The title is link bait and the page not really worth much.
- elisabeth 12y ago
  That's a great explanation!
  - iammyIP 12y ago
    Thanks, and i must excuse for saying that the page was not worth much, which was influenced by the biased title. The interesting thing about this seems to be Python, which (if my assumption would be somewhat correct) gained some popularity in relation to the other three languages, since it appears to be rather stable.
- cyphunk 12y ago
  Still relevant in terms of comparison between languages. Surprisingly Perl and Ruby are missing. These terms along with "Python" and "Java" are also words with other significant meanings though. But adding Golang and Haskell shows that one should not put too much into this.
cyphunk 12y ago
Notice, Cuba is top on geo scale of interest in Javascript, Php and Python. Can we attribute this to Eric Schmidts meddling in that region?

5 points by elisabeth 12y ago

I have been programming in all of these for a couple of years now. A bit sad to see them go down the drain. Which languages are going up? Or is coding all in all going down?

lutusp 12y ago
The title is misleading. The linked chart doesn't measure use of programming languages, but online discussion of programming languages. Suppose a chart showed a decline in online discussion of sex -- would it be rational to assume on that basis that people were having less sex? Note the checkbox in the linked chart that identifies what it quantifies: "News Headlines". The map is not the territory, and headlines aren't reality.
- y4mi 12y ago
  > Suppose a chart showed a decline in online discussion of sex -- would it be rational to assume on that basis that people were having less sex? yes. but you could argue that the code quality increases because there are fewer newcomers

lutusp 12y ago

The chart doesn't measure programming languages, it measures online discussion of programming languages. To support the title's thesis, one would have to prove a connection between uses of programming languages and discussion of programming languages.

iammyIP 12y ago

Regarding that since 2005 many more people have gotten access to the internet, it may be unavoidable that the percentage of people directly interested in programming specific articles corrects itself to a normal level that reflects interest measured over the whole population, instead of only a special group of tech enthusiasts. The title is link bait and the page not really worth much.

elisabeth 12y ago
That's a great explanation!
- iammyIP 12y ago
  Thanks, and i must excuse for saying that the page was not worth much, which was influenced by the biased title. The interesting thing about this seems to be Python, which (if my assumption would be somewhat correct) gained some popularity in relation to the other three languages, since it appears to be rather stable.
cyphunk 12y ago
Still relevant in terms of comparison between languages. Surprisingly Perl and Ruby are missing. These terms along with "Python" and "Java" are also words with other significant meanings though. But adding Golang and Haskell shows that one should not put too much into this.

cyphunk 12y ago

Notice, Cuba is top on geo scale of interest in Javascript, Php and Python. Can we attribute this to Eric Schmidts meddling in that region?