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Gelato brings real-time search to online dating

14 points by johnrobertreed 17y ago

jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
im sorry, but this realtime stuff is like web 2.0 overhype on steroids. There's a lot of great products that will come out of it, but there will also be a lot of WTF is going on here products as well. "it's like friendfeed for dating". People usually go on dating sites to get laid and/or find soulmates, I don't think need real time dating search will make that happen more efficiently.
- jrockway 17y ago
  Indeed. I read the profile in the screenshot, and he says he hates describing himself and then decries how people whose profiles he liked weren't actually like him. Well, yeah. If you don't provide any information about yourself, then you are not going to meet people that are like you. I am not sure how "real-time search" is going to solve this problem. (Incidentally, I have started the online dating thing, and I am shocked at how little some people say about themselves. "I like having fun". Wow, let me guess... you have two arms and two legs too!)
- HeyLaughingBoy 17y ago
  People usually go on dating sites to get laid and/or find soulmates I often wonder if this is why most dating sites struggle: most people who are trying to get laid feel they need to at least pretend they are looking for a mate(1) or else they come across as being too crass. This then leads to mismatch between the "I want to get laid soon" and the "I am looking for a long term mate" groups and both end up unsatisfied. It's for just this reason my gut tells me that OnlineBootyCall.com will succeed. (1) sometimes the unexpected happens and they converge: my wife and I met on Yahoo! Personals about 10 years ago when we were both just looking for a booty call :-)
charlesju 17y ago
Where is the link?
- natrius 17y ago
  http://ge.la.to http://ge.la.to
chasingsparks 17y ago
I tried -- and failed -- to produce a online dating startup. I spent a lot of time reading the academic literature on the matter. Here is my summation: compatibility ~ attraction + age + sex + serendipity Serendipity is more appropriately called the error term. In my opinion, real-time news feeds will at best add nothing, if not actually degrading the signal by adding excess noise. You can't date (i.e. appraise compatibility) online. You have to date in "real life". Then again, that was the premise of my startup, and it failed so maybe i should STFU.
- natrius 17y ago
  I'm more interested in the kind of stuff a person reads on the internet. If you read similar topics, we're going to have a lot of stuff to talk about, which is attractive to me. There are tons of people on dating sites who I am attracted to and are around my age. You need a filter, and similar interests are easier to express implicitly than writing a huge block of text about all the things you enjoy. That was the premise for a site I worked on (mostly dead for now), though it isn't targeted at dating. http://sitesincommon.com http://sitesincommon.com Example profile: http://sitesincommon.com/users/niran http://sitesincommon.com/users/niran
  - chasingsparks 17y ago
    I tried simple tagging of interests, favorite activities, books, etc. From that, I tried for find clustered similarity. It may have worked -- if i had any users.
  - miracle 17y ago
    I'm never interested in women working in the same profession than I'm working in, having the same views, etc... I don't need someone to acknowledge everything I say. I can do that myself.
    - jrockway 17y ago
      I don't need someone to acknowledge everything I say. Then why are you posting this to a social news site?
orblivion 17y ago
Reading the title, the image of the product I got in my mind seemed to be a great idea, a solution to some of the awkwardness that I personally feel toward OK Cupid. I don't want to send an email pretending to take interest in something particular in someone's profile. Bottom line, who's out there, right now, who seems like they are at least potentially interesting? Who wants to meet? "You seem interesting enough, let's just grab a drink." I envisioned something like Twitter, with a more extensive profile. Maybe a Twitter app could do this. But reading it, this just seems like stalking people before you even know them. Making online dating all the less natural.
- natrius 17y ago
  "I don't want to send an email pretending to take interest in something particular in someone's profile. " I don't want to have to pretend to be interested in someone's profile. I want to actually be interested in it, but profiles are hard to write. If pulling information about what you do across the internet leads to an interesting profile, then that seems like a huge gain with zero effort. If you just want to meet as many possibly interesting people as possible, it sounds like you're looking for http://crazyblinddate.com http://crazyblinddate.com.
  - chasingsparks 17y ago
    Hah. F*ck me. That is roughly the exact implementation of my project from two years ago (even down to the metro area concept). Difference being their site seems to be successful.
    - natrius 17y ago
      I don't think the site is very successful. I tried it once, and there was never anyone else in my area, which is right in the middle of one of their metro areas. They run OKCupid as well, and I'm sure CBD would be more popular (and therefore useful) if they advertised it on the site like they did at the very beginning.
  - orblivion 17y ago
oneplusone 17y ago
http://ge.la.to http://ge.la.to

im sorry, but this realtime stuff is like web 2.0 overhype on steroids. There's a lot of great products that will come out of it, but there will also be a lot of WTF is going on here products as well. "it's like friendfeed for dating". People usually go on dating sites to get laid and/or find soulmates, I don't think need real time dating search will make that happen more efficiently.

jrockway 17y ago
Indeed. I read the profile in the screenshot, and he says he hates describing himself and then decries how people whose profiles he liked weren't actually like him. Well, yeah. If you don't provide any information about yourself, then you are not going to meet people that are like you. I am not sure how "real-time search" is going to solve this problem. (Incidentally, I have started the online dating thing, and I am shocked at how little some people say about themselves. "I like having fun". Wow, let me guess... you have two arms and two legs too!)
HeyLaughingBoy 17y ago
People usually go on dating sites to get laid and/or find soulmates I often wonder if this is why most dating sites struggle: most people who are trying to get laid feel they need to at least pretend they are looking for a mate(1) or else they come across as being too crass. This then leads to mismatch between the "I want to get laid soon" and the "I am looking for a long term mate" groups and both end up unsatisfied. It's for just this reason my gut tells me that OnlineBootyCall.com will succeed. (1) sometimes the unexpected happens and they converge: my wife and I met on Yahoo! Personals about 10 years ago when we were both just looking for a booty call :-)

charlesju 17y ago

Where is the link?

natrius 17y ago
http://ge.la.to http://ge.la.to

chasingsparks 17y ago

I tried -- and failed -- to produce a online dating startup. I spent a lot of time reading the academic literature on the matter. Here is my summation: compatibility ~ attraction + age + sex + serendipity Serendipity is more appropriately called the error term. In my opinion, real-time news feeds will at best add nothing, if not actually degrading the signal by adding excess noise. You can't date (i.e. appraise compatibility) online. You have to date in "real life". Then again, that was the premise of my startup, and it failed so maybe i should STFU.

natrius 17y ago
I'm more interested in the kind of stuff a person reads on the internet. If you read similar topics, we're going to have a lot of stuff to talk about, which is attractive to me. There are tons of people on dating sites who I am attracted to and are around my age. You need a filter, and similar interests are easier to express implicitly than writing a huge block of text about all the things you enjoy. That was the premise for a site I worked on (mostly dead for now), though it isn't targeted at dating. http://sitesincommon.com http://sitesincommon.com Example profile: http://sitesincommon.com/users/niran http://sitesincommon.com/users/niran
- chasingsparks 17y ago
  I tried simple tagging of interests, favorite activities, books, etc. From that, I tried for find clustered similarity. It may have worked -- if i had any users.
- miracle 17y ago
  I'm never interested in women working in the same profession than I'm working in, having the same views, etc... I don't need someone to acknowledge everything I say. I can do that myself.
  - jrockway 17y ago
    I don't need someone to acknowledge everything I say. Then why are you posting this to a social news site?

orblivion 17y ago

Reading the title, the image of the product I got in my mind seemed to be a great idea, a solution to some of the awkwardness that I personally feel toward OK Cupid. I don't want to send an email pretending to take interest in something particular in someone's profile. Bottom line, who's out there, right now, who seems like they are at least potentially interesting? Who wants to meet? "You seem interesting enough, let's just grab a drink." I envisioned something like Twitter, with a more extensive profile. Maybe a Twitter app could do this. But reading it, this just seems like stalking people before you even know them. Making online dating all the less natural.

natrius 17y ago
"I don't want to send an email pretending to take interest in something particular in someone's profile. " I don't want to have to pretend to be interested in someone's profile. I want to actually be interested in it, but profiles are hard to write. If pulling information about what you do across the internet leads to an interesting profile, then that seems like a huge gain with zero effort. If you just want to meet as many possibly interesting people as possible, it sounds like you're looking for http://crazyblinddate.com http://crazyblinddate.com.
- chasingsparks 17y ago
  Hah. F*ck me. That is roughly the exact implementation of my project from two years ago (even down to the metro area concept). Difference being their site seems to be successful.
  - natrius 17y ago
    I don't think the site is very successful. I tried it once, and there was never anyone else in my area, which is right in the middle of one of their metro areas. They run OKCupid as well, and I'm sure CBD would be more popular (and therefore useful) if they advertised it on the site like they did at the very beginning.
- orblivion 17y ago

oneplusone 17y ago

http://ge.la.to http://ge.la.to