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It's not about terrorism, it's the MPAA and RIAA behind this push. In other words, it's the for the corporates.

xnull2guest 12y ago
Nope. It's about an ongoing global cyber intelligence war. Check out my other comment in this thread for a quick rundown on some stuff to start researching.
- hadoukenio 12y ago
  Sorry, typo. I meant not
- dwd 12y ago
  Is it just about corporate espionage? They seem to be doing just fine as it is with current powers. This legislation is something else. On one hand the new term ASIO affiliate would appear to extend Australian legal coverage to anyone ASIO determines to be operating in a recognised role. This would allow for example five-eyes partners to legally spy on Australians while ASIO can deny involvement of its employees. The other possibility is that they are scared. The world is changing and consumers are starting to feel the pinch of 40 years of eroding job security and stagnating real wages. These heightened powers would give them legal powers to monitor and disrupt any internal dissent before it has a chance to disrupt the corporate structures. Good luck to starting any grass roots campaign that seeks to change the system.
  - xnull2guest 12y ago
    No, it's political as well. Imagine knowing the talking points and agendas of politicians before an international political gathering. The Cuban Twitter program is another example of non-corporate use. Sabotage and owning of infrastructure as a deterrent is also popular. Corporate espionage is huge, though. China is involved with enormous amounts of industrial espionage and the NSA specifies the Bureau of Commerce as a primary customer. Definitely the second is true. "Radicalizers" are identified and quieted. PsyOps are used (for example JTRIG with NSA) to spook and discredit people. (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-s...) You may remember online porn browsing habits are collected by the NSA to discredit and blackmail leaders. Furthermore MINERVA and sister programs are used to seed and quiet dissent by serving targeted online advertisements and content. Many study the concept of "social contagion" - the idea that influencing a few key people who are key social figures can influence the behavior and beliefs of groups. PHK does a great job describing how problematic technological and incendiary political discussions are derailed (http://mirror.as35701.net/video.fosdem.org//2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_operation_ORCHESTRA_Annual_Status_Report.webm http://mirror.as35701.net/video.fosdem.org//2014/Janson/Sund...). The defense industry hires Astroturfers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBGary#Astroturfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBGary#Astroturfing) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing#Business_and_adoption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing#Business_and_adop...) and online social network analysis is a key part of modern political tooling (http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world-of-quants-and-data-crunchers-who-helped-obama-win/ http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world...) (http://mprcenter.org/blog/2013/01/how-obama-won-the-social-media-battle-in-the-2012-presidential-campaign/ http://mprcenter.org/blog/2013/01/how-obama-won-the-social-m...). It shouldn't be a surprise, as the Web makes money off of selling personal information and showing targeted content - when it isn't a state surveillance and propaganda platform, it's a corporate one. (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/937b06c2-3ebd-11e4-adef-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3Dz2wbYoI http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/937b06c2-3ebd-11e4-adef-00144...) Media manipulation is fairly common place, although it is practiced pretty carefully. (http://www.globalissues.org/article/461/media-reporting-journalism-and-propaganda http://www.globalissues.org/article/461/media-reporting-jour...) (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/04/former-l-times-reporter-cleared-stories-cia-publication/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/04/former-l-times...). The Fallujah PsyOp is a great example of how US media is a victim of direct US led propaganda.

Nope. It's about an ongoing global cyber intelligence war. Check out my other comment in this thread for a quick rundown on some stuff to start researching.

hadoukenio 12y ago
Sorry, typo. I meant not
dwd 12y ago
Is it just about corporate espionage? They seem to be doing just fine as it is with current powers. This legislation is something else. On one hand the new term ASIO affiliate would appear to extend Australian legal coverage to anyone ASIO determines to be operating in a recognised role. This would allow for example five-eyes partners to legally spy on Australians while ASIO can deny involvement of its employees. The other possibility is that they are scared. The world is changing and consumers are starting to feel the pinch of 40 years of eroding job security and stagnating real wages. These heightened powers would give them legal powers to monitor and disrupt any internal dissent before it has a chance to disrupt the corporate structures. Good luck to starting any grass roots campaign that seeks to change the system.
- xnull2guest 12y ago
  No, it's political as well. Imagine knowing the talking points and agendas of politicians before an international political gathering. The Cuban Twitter program is another example of non-corporate use. Sabotage and owning of infrastructure as a deterrent is also popular. Corporate espionage is huge, though. China is involved with enormous amounts of industrial espionage and the NSA specifies the Bureau of Commerce as a primary customer. Definitely the second is true. "Radicalizers" are identified and quieted. PsyOps are used (for example JTRIG with NSA) to spook and discredit people. (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-s...) You may remember online porn browsing habits are collected by the NSA to discredit and blackmail leaders. Furthermore MINERVA and sister programs are used to seed and quiet dissent by serving targeted online advertisements and content. Many study the concept of "social contagion" - the idea that influencing a few key people who are key social figures can influence the behavior and beliefs of groups. PHK does a great job describing how problematic technological and incendiary political discussions are derailed (http://mirror.as35701.net/video.fosdem.org//2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_operation_ORCHESTRA_Annual_Status_Report.webm http://mirror.as35701.net/video.fosdem.org//2014/Janson/Sund...). The defense industry hires Astroturfers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBGary#Astroturfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBGary#Astroturfing) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing#Business_and_adoption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing#Business_and_adop...) and online social network analysis is a key part of modern political tooling (http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world-of-quants-and-data-crunchers-who-helped-obama-win/ http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world...) (http://mprcenter.org/blog/2013/01/how-obama-won-the-social-media-battle-in-the-2012-presidential-campaign/ http://mprcenter.org/blog/2013/01/how-obama-won-the-social-m...). It shouldn't be a surprise, as the Web makes money off of selling personal information and showing targeted content - when it isn't a state surveillance and propaganda platform, it's a corporate one. (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/937b06c2-3ebd-11e4-adef-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3Dz2wbYoI http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/937b06c2-3ebd-11e4-adef-00144...) Media manipulation is fairly common place, although it is practiced pretty carefully. (http://www.globalissues.org/article/461/media-reporting-journalism-and-propaganda http://www.globalissues.org/article/461/media-reporting-jour...) (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/04/former-l-times-reporter-cleared-stories-cia-publication/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/04/former-l-times...). The Fallujah PsyOp is a great example of how US media is a victim of direct US led propaganda.