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That's nice and all, but what do you offer at 52 bucks a month that is more than what picasa and picasaweb offers for free? it's not space, if it's the "sort-by

by izak30 19y ago

That's nice and all, but what do you offer at 52 bucks a month that is more than what picasa and picasaweb offers for free? it's not space, if it's the "sort-by-date" feature, I would reconsider your model.

brlewis 19y ago
That's actually 52/year. I'll take this as a lesson that the word "year" should be in bold. The "sort-by-date" feature is the starting point for what distinguishes ourdoings.com. But I don't want to go into detail here. If you have a few hundred photos that lend themselves to chronological organization, make yourself a free site and give it a try. If you don't like it, use the "Tear down this site..." option on your site info page, and the "Forget I exist..." option on your personal info page. More relevant to the business model question, it's important to look at the ad vs pay question from your customer's point of view. From my own point of view, pay is better because I don't want ads on the pages where I share my photos. However, I'm catering toward people who have very little time to spare. Freeing them from filling out a form with credit card info is a time saver. They will put up with ads for other convenience. Initially it was pay-only, but I changed it.
- izak30 19y ago
  Yeah, actually picasa doesn't have ads at second glance either, I've been using it for quite a while now, and as with most ads, I don't even notice that they're there (a note to people who think that ad-based models get user's attention). I certainly don't want to argue with you, or tell you that your business won't work (I can't say that I know TOO much about that), but picasa auto-arranges albums by date too. It doesn't have the blog feel of your albums, which I sort of like. I like that you've added a free service, but I guess I just didn't see what made somebody choose your pay service (even per year) over google's, who gives 10Gb for $20 per year. My bigger question, is how can us little guys compete with Google and Yahoo and Microsoft on anything?
  - brlewis 19y ago
    Here's a quick answer to your bigger question: Google has attracted a large number of users who like the way picasaweb feels now, and they need to keep those users happy. How can they ever compete with lots of little guys who make things that appeal to others? A longer answer will appear in a blog post in the not-too-distant future.
    - izak30 19y ago
      They do that with the ability to change the defaults, and add new features, like a hosted blog management (blogger) or similar. The same could be done for picasa.
      - brlewis 19y ago
        Every option/feature has a cost. If they try to be all things to all people they will fail.
imsteve 19y ago
The question of price optimization is easily answered by basic supply/demand curves. If you're saying that they should charge less just because other photo sites are then you're doing it totally wrong.
- izak30 19y ago
  I don't think that I'm totally wrong, or else x-mart would never accept t-mart's coupons, or say "look how much you save with us"

by izak30 19y ago

brlewis 19y ago

That's actually 52/year. I'll take this as a lesson that the word "year" should be in bold. The "sort-by-date" feature is the starting point for what distinguishes ourdoings.com. But I don't want to go into detail here. If you have a few hundred photos that lend themselves to chronological organization, make yourself a free site and give it a try. If you don't like it, use the "Tear down this site..." option on your site info page, and the "Forget I exist..." option on your personal info page. More relevant to the business model question, it's important to look at the ad vs pay question from your customer's point of view. From my own point of view, pay is better because I don't want ads on the pages where I share my photos. However, I'm catering toward people who have very little time to spare. Freeing them from filling out a form with credit card info is a time saver. They will put up with ads for other convenience. Initially it was pay-only, but I changed it.

izak30 19y ago
Yeah, actually picasa doesn't have ads at second glance either, I've been using it for quite a while now, and as with most ads, I don't even notice that they're there (a note to people who think that ad-based models get user's attention). I certainly don't want to argue with you, or tell you that your business won't work (I can't say that I know TOO much about that), but picasa auto-arranges albums by date too. It doesn't have the blog feel of your albums, which I sort of like. I like that you've added a free service, but I guess I just didn't see what made somebody choose your pay service (even per year) over google's, who gives 10Gb for $20 per year. My bigger question, is how can us little guys compete with Google and Yahoo and Microsoft on anything?
- brlewis 19y ago
  Here's a quick answer to your bigger question: Google has attracted a large number of users who like the way picasaweb feels now, and they need to keep those users happy. How can they ever compete with lots of little guys who make things that appeal to others? A longer answer will appear in a blog post in the not-too-distant future.
  - izak30 19y ago
    They do that with the ability to change the defaults, and add new features, like a hosted blog management (blogger) or similar. The same could be done for picasa.
    - brlewis 19y ago
      Every option/feature has a cost. If they try to be all things to all people they will fail.

imsteve 19y ago

The question of price optimization is easily answered by basic supply/demand curves. If you're saying that they should charge less just because other photo sites are then you're doing it totally wrong.

izak30 19y ago
I don't think that I'm totally wrong, or else x-mart would never accept t-mart's coupons, or say "look how much you save with us"