3 ms·

I read about him just now, admittedly was not aware of him prior. My first thought though given the location was "so what was this guy doing the government did

by hoopism 12y ago

I read about him just now, admittedly was not aware of him prior. My first thought though given the location was "so what was this guy doing the government didn't like?".

benologist 12y ago
Wikipedia has very sparse information about this man but at 76 years old even stumbling can become a fatal accident.
chc 12y ago
"Given the location"? What is it about a forest that makes you think the government was involved? Or do you mean that every death in Russia is a suspicious death?
- hoopism 12y ago
  My comment was exactly that... Basically saying that as someone uneducated on foreign affairs my gut reaction to a death of a prominent Russian scientist is to suspect that the article is about suspicious conditions. Not sure why this got negative feedback... I bet a lot of people immediately thought that was the purpose of the story.
  - grimtrigger 12y ago
    People seem to be interpreting your comment as an accusation, rather than an admission of bias.
    - hoopism 12y ago
      Thank you. I think you are right. Felt like somehow what I said was inflammatory. If anything it's admission of ignorance... but one I thought was worth mentioning.
agrostis 12y ago
If you were a native Russian, your would look out not for malice but rather for negligence and indifference on part of the authorities. Which is why I, for one, think the right question to ask is: how did it come that a person so evidently in distress could not be located quickly in a place like that? No doubt, Losiny Ostrov is a large park (it is about the same size as Pinnacles State Park in California), but it is surrounded on all sides by urbanized territory and should have excellent mobile coverage. Given that Chervonenkis had a phone on him, couldn't Search and Rescue have the mobile provider determine his location (qv. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking) with at least the accuracy that would allow for a small ground team to find him?

by hoopism 12y ago

I read about him just now, admittedly was not aware of him prior. My first thought though given the location was "so what was this guy doing the government didn't like?".

benologist 12y ago

Wikipedia has very sparse information about this man but at 76 years old even stumbling can become a fatal accident.

chc 12y ago

"Given the location"? What is it about a forest that makes you think the government was involved? Or do you mean that every death in Russia is a suspicious death?

hoopism 12y ago
My comment was exactly that... Basically saying that as someone uneducated on foreign affairs my gut reaction to a death of a prominent Russian scientist is to suspect that the article is about suspicious conditions. Not sure why this got negative feedback... I bet a lot of people immediately thought that was the purpose of the story.
- grimtrigger 12y ago
  People seem to be interpreting your comment as an accusation, rather than an admission of bias.
  - hoopism 12y ago
    Thank you. I think you are right. Felt like somehow what I said was inflammatory. If anything it's admission of ignorance... but one I thought was worth mentioning.

agrostis 12y ago

If you were a native Russian, your would look out not for malice but rather for negligence and indifference on part of the authorities. Which is why I, for one, think the right question to ask is: how did it come that a person so evidently in distress could not be located quickly in a place like that? No doubt, Losiny Ostrov is a large park (it is about the same size as Pinnacles State Park in California), but it is surrounded on all sides by urbanized territory and should have excellent mobile coverage. Given that Chervonenkis had a phone on him, couldn't Search and Rescue have the mobile provider determine his location (qv. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking) with at least the accuracy that would allow for a small ground team to find him?