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systemd should really include pulseaudio, and nginx. Oh, it already has a httpd in there.

by illumen 12y ago

rossj 12y ago
And it's own database which is mentioned in http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/6922/focus=6950 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/69...
- metafex 12y ago
  And it supports QR-codes for kernel panics!
  - angersock 12y ago
    oh ffs
    - justizin 12y ago
      QR codes for kernel panics is actually brilliant, because it encodes the data which would otherwise just be serialized to screen in a manner that makes it portable.
      - MertsA 12y ago
        That actually might be nice but don't get your hopes up, systemd isn't actually part of the linux kernel as some conspiracy nuts would have you believe. The systemd project can't possibly just add random stuff to kernel panics, all of that code is in the kernel, not userspace. I think a little while ago there actually was some work done on making kernel panics display a QR code but I doubt it'll ever be merged in if it's even done.
        justizin 12y ago
        I think you're right, but if that's so, then apparently all of the features the OP claims to be bloat in systemd are questionably in systemd at all, and the entire discussion is moot.
  - rasz_pl 12y ago
    Im pretty sure Poettering is working hard on Kinect integration as we speak.
chronid 12y ago
You forget its own reimplementation of dhcpcd, IIRC.
Someone1234 12y ago
Maybe they should add a kernel, then it would be the "systemd OS with Linux compatibility."
gyre007 12y ago
I'm glad people still remember Pulse Audio :-) What a piece of.......software ?
- stefantalpalaru 12y ago
  I managed to avoid it completely on Gentoo until recently when skype decided that the only way to deal with sound on Linux is through PulseAudio. I like to think that a knowledgeable neckbeard suggested PortAudio and the info got mangled in transit :-)
antientropic 12y ago
You are referring to systemd-journal-gatewayd, which has a dependency on libmicrohttpd, a 93 KB web server. You don't have to run it - it's an optional unit, that even when enabled is activated on demand. You don't even need to build it, since it can be disabled with a configure flag. If systemd-journal-gatewayd were a separate package, nobody would complain about it. So why is it such a big deal that it comes included in the systemd source tree?

systemd should really include pulseaudio, and nginx. Oh, it already has a httpd in there.

by illumen 12y ago

systemd should really include pulseaudio, and nginx. Oh, it already has a httpd in there.

rossj 12y ago

And it's own database which is mentioned in http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/6922/focus=6950 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/69...

metafex 12y ago
And it supports QR-codes for kernel panics!
- angersock 12y ago
  oh ffs
  - justizin 12y ago
    QR codes for kernel panics is actually brilliant, because it encodes the data which would otherwise just be serialized to screen in a manner that makes it portable.
    - MertsA 12y ago
      That actually might be nice but don't get your hopes up, systemd isn't actually part of the linux kernel as some conspiracy nuts would have you believe. The systemd project can't possibly just add random stuff to kernel panics, all of that code is in the kernel, not userspace. I think a little while ago there actually was some work done on making kernel panics display a QR code but I doubt it'll ever be merged in if it's even done.
      - justizin 12y ago
        I think you're right, but if that's so, then apparently all of the features the OP claims to be bloat in systemd are questionably in systemd at all, and the entire discussion is moot.
- rasz_pl 12y ago
  Im pretty sure Poettering is working hard on Kinect integration as we speak.

chronid 12y ago

You forget its own reimplementation of dhcpcd, IIRC.

Someone1234 12y ago

Maybe they should add a kernel, then it would be the "systemd OS with Linux compatibility."

gyre007 12y ago

I'm glad people still remember Pulse Audio :-) What a piece of.......software ?

stefantalpalaru 12y ago
I managed to avoid it completely on Gentoo until recently when skype decided that the only way to deal with sound on Linux is through PulseAudio. I like to think that a knowledgeable neckbeard suggested PortAudio and the info got mangled in transit :-)

antientropic 12y ago

You are referring to systemd-journal-gatewayd, which has a dependency on libmicrohttpd, a 93 KB web server. You don't have to run it - it's an optional unit, that even when enabled is activated on demand. You don't even need to build it, since it can be disabled with a configure flag. If systemd-journal-gatewayd were a separate package, nobody would complain about it. So why is it such a big deal that it comes included in the systemd source tree?