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> The entire internet community came together to deride this why the persecution complex ? Yes there was criticism, but there is always criticism of everything

> The entire internet community came together to deride this why the persecution complex ? Yes there was criticism, but there is always criticism of everything on the internet. Another proud Indian.

sidcool 12y ago
Not a persecution complex. I did not argue then, I don't wish to deride anyone now. It's just that I feel good about this. Developing countries taking to space. Humanity is progressing.
melling 12y ago
Yes, but the people who do a lot of the criticizing seem to just shrug their shoulders then start criticizing the next thing. As humans, we often don't learn from our mistakes. And in democratic societies, we expend a lot of energy dealing with the noise.
- Cthulhu_ 12y ago
  Almost nobody will admit to being wrong. Plus a lot of people take a lot of satisfaction from being negative about things.
- humanrebar 12y ago
  On the other hand, people should have listened to critics before the Titanic, the Hindenburg, the last Columbia launch, the last Challenger launch, the Big Dig, the Iraq War, the launch of the Obamacare websites, and a bunch of other large undertakings. The critics were wrong in this case, but writing them off as noise can lead to other mistakes.
  - noisy_boy 12y ago
    With exception of the Iraq War and Universal Healthcare websites, pretty much everything was an accident. Sending an orbiter to Mars is advancing science and knowledge. Aside from the fact that this was an unmanned mission, ambitious projects mostly have an extra element of risk by definition. Inactivity due to that would be stopping advancement. Besides, India spent USD 75 million on it. It's GDP is 1.877 trillion USD approx. Its peanuts[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8361505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8361505
    - ceejayoz 12y ago
      > With exception of the Iraq War and Universal Healthcare websites, pretty much everything was an accident. Off the top of my head: Titanic's water bulkheads didn't go all the way to the tops of compartments, Hindenburg didn't use non-flammable helium, and Challenger had known issues with O-rings at low temperatures.
    - intended 12y ago
      In context, many early stage startups are (or hope to be) valued more than a probe to mars.
eidyia 12y ago
Proud: "feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's [b]own[/b] achievements" By definition neither you or sidcool are proud (unless you actually/literally helped the project), you must be looking for a different word, perhaps pleased
- sean_the_geek 12y ago
  proud:feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's own achievements, qualities, or possessions or those of someone with whom one is closely associated. you conveniently left the second part "or those of someone with whom one is closely associated."
  - eidyia 12y ago
    well then the question is what "closely associated" means, if by being Indian, Chinese, black, white, orange, etc "closely associates" you with them (that group?) then anything does, the fact that we all wear clothes for example, we belong in a group that shares this idea, which then closely associates us, making the word meaningless
    - gajomi 12y ago
      It doesn't make the word meaningless at all. There are many orders of granularity in "close association" and the diversity of the usage of the word reflects this. For example a google search for "proud to be human" turns up nearly a million hits. The phrase "proud to be alive" returns yields almost two million. Even "proud to be from the milky way" returns six results.
    - vesche 12y ago
      You should learn to admit when you're wrong.
      - ninv 12y ago
        Don't feed the Troll.

> The entire internet community came together to deride this why the persecution complex ? Yes there was criticism, but there is always criticism of everything on the internet. Another proud Indian.

sidcool 12y ago

Not a persecution complex. I did not argue then, I don't wish to deride anyone now. It's just that I feel good about this. Developing countries taking to space. Humanity is progressing.

melling 12y ago

Yes, but the people who do a lot of the criticizing seem to just shrug their shoulders then start criticizing the next thing. As humans, we often don't learn from our mistakes. And in democratic societies, we expend a lot of energy dealing with the noise.

Cthulhu_ 12y ago
Almost nobody will admit to being wrong. Plus a lot of people take a lot of satisfaction from being negative about things.
humanrebar 12y ago
On the other hand, people should have listened to critics before the Titanic, the Hindenburg, the last Columbia launch, the last Challenger launch, the Big Dig, the Iraq War, the launch of the Obamacare websites, and a bunch of other large undertakings. The critics were wrong in this case, but writing them off as noise can lead to other mistakes.
- noisy_boy 12y ago
  With exception of the Iraq War and Universal Healthcare websites, pretty much everything was an accident. Sending an orbiter to Mars is advancing science and knowledge. Aside from the fact that this was an unmanned mission, ambitious projects mostly have an extra element of risk by definition. Inactivity due to that would be stopping advancement. Besides, India spent USD 75 million on it. It's GDP is 1.877 trillion USD approx. Its peanuts[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8361505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8361505
  - ceejayoz 12y ago
    > With exception of the Iraq War and Universal Healthcare websites, pretty much everything was an accident. Off the top of my head: Titanic's water bulkheads didn't go all the way to the tops of compartments, Hindenburg didn't use non-flammable helium, and Challenger had known issues with O-rings at low temperatures.
  - intended 12y ago
    In context, many early stage startups are (or hope to be) valued more than a probe to mars.

eidyia 12y ago

Proud: "feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's [b]own[/b] achievements" By definition neither you or sidcool are proud (unless you actually/literally helped the project), you must be looking for a different word, perhaps pleased

sean_the_geek 12y ago
proud:feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's own achievements, qualities, or possessions or those of someone with whom one is closely associated. you conveniently left the second part "or those of someone with whom one is closely associated."
- eidyia 12y ago
  well then the question is what "closely associated" means, if by being Indian, Chinese, black, white, orange, etc "closely associates" you with them (that group?) then anything does, the fact that we all wear clothes for example, we belong in a group that shares this idea, which then closely associates us, making the word meaningless
  - gajomi 12y ago
    It doesn't make the word meaningless at all. There are many orders of granularity in "close association" and the diversity of the usage of the word reflects this. For example a google search for "proud to be human" turns up nearly a million hits. The phrase "proud to be alive" returns yields almost two million. Even "proud to be from the milky way" returns six results.
  - vesche 12y ago
    You should learn to admit when you're wrong.
    - ninv 12y ago
      Don't feed the Troll.