This is very insightful. It is very hard to produce something that provides clear value in the microcosm (i.e. useful to developers) but is also valuable in the

This is very insightful. It is very hard to produce something that provides clear value in the microcosm (i.e. useful to developers) but is also valuable in the macrocosm (i.e. can be deployed to all targets). One approach is to build something that solves the small problem but keeps enough options open in order to eventually grow to encompass the larger issues. I think this generally superior to the reverse approach, which tends to die from lack of adoption. I don't know if docker, kubernetes, et. al. will actually get there. I agree that they will have to reshuffle and rethink to make it happen, but I hope that they can.