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Machine learning applied to vulnerability research in open source code distributions =/= strong AI.

by Phlarp 12y ago

toomuchtodo 12y ago
Well, maybe not yet. I think its silly to start discounting what level of AI we'll be able to develop with enough computing power and storage. Not to say we'll be able to duplicate biological system levels of computing in silicon, but who knows. Technology is moving pretty damn fast.
- valarauca1 12y ago
  >but who knows. Technology is moving pretty damn fast. We've been saying this for nearly 70 years. I'm still waiting.
  - toomuchtodo 12y ago
    You can ask your phone for the weather and to change the temperature of your home. You can store your entire music collection on a device the size of a postage stamp (512GB Sandisk MicroSD card). There are cars that can literally drive themselves. There is mini version of the space shuttle that runs completely autonomously in space, and has loitered up there for over a year, waiting to come home when it receives a specially coded signal. IBM has software that is slowly replacing doctors and lawyers. The future is already here.
    - DasIch 12y ago
      Most of these things are solved with simple algorithms though. That we are able to solve a lot of these problems is pretty much inevitable as the technology stack grows and we are able to stick stuff together via APIs. These systems may seem smart or intelligent but really they are just a large complex network of systems. There is nothing intelligent about them. AI of this kind is not just the result of a simple step or several. AI will probably be a revolutionary break through that requires an understanding of intelligence and being, we have not made any significant progress in.
    - roywiggins 12y ago
      A lot of the modern changes are a difference in size or extent, but not in kind. I mean to say: A small hard drive replacing a massive hard drive is very, very useful. But it's not, by itself, any smarter than the magnetic core storage that filled a room. You could ask your Nokia dumbphone for the weather using a text message 15 years ago. People were wiring their home lighting systems into the internet by the early 2000s. Of course, it was more ad-hoc and expensive then. Now you can go down to Best Buy and buy a home automation kit for a few hundred dollars. The miniaturization and extension of digital technology into every part of our lives and waking moments is extraordinary. But it's not, by itself, much of a guarantee that we'll see strong AI. It's probably necessary but not sufficient.

Machine learning applied to vulnerability research in open source code distributions =/= strong AI.

by Phlarp 12y ago

Machine learning applied to vulnerability research in open source code distributions =/= strong AI.

Well, maybe not yet. I think its silly to start discounting what level of AI we'll be able to develop with enough computing power and storage. Not to say we'll be able to duplicate biological system levels of computing in silicon, but who knows. Technology is moving pretty damn fast.

valarauca1 12y ago
>but who knows. Technology is moving pretty damn fast. We've been saying this for nearly 70 years. I'm still waiting.
- toomuchtodo 12y ago
  You can ask your phone for the weather and to change the temperature of your home. You can store your entire music collection on a device the size of a postage stamp (512GB Sandisk MicroSD card). There are cars that can literally drive themselves. There is mini version of the space shuttle that runs completely autonomously in space, and has loitered up there for over a year, waiting to come home when it receives a specially coded signal. IBM has software that is slowly replacing doctors and lawyers. The future is already here.
  - DasIch 12y ago
    Most of these things are solved with simple algorithms though. That we are able to solve a lot of these problems is pretty much inevitable as the technology stack grows and we are able to stick stuff together via APIs. These systems may seem smart or intelligent but really they are just a large complex network of systems. There is nothing intelligent about them. AI of this kind is not just the result of a simple step or several. AI will probably be a revolutionary break through that requires an understanding of intelligence and being, we have not made any significant progress in.
  - roywiggins 12y ago
    A lot of the modern changes are a difference in size or extent, but not in kind. I mean to say: A small hard drive replacing a massive hard drive is very, very useful. But it's not, by itself, any smarter than the magnetic core storage that filled a room. You could ask your Nokia dumbphone for the weather using a text message 15 years ago. People were wiring their home lighting systems into the internet by the early 2000s. Of course, it was more ad-hoc and expensive then. Now you can go down to Best Buy and buy a home automation kit for a few hundred dollars. The miniaturization and extension of digital technology into every part of our lives and waking moments is extraordinary. But it's not, by itself, much of a guarantee that we'll see strong AI. It's probably necessary but not sufficient.