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Maybe it's just me, but 'adoption' sounds like a purely voluntary action. Don't mean to sound negative, but is there a word with less negative connotation than

Maybe it's just me, but 'adoption' sounds like a purely voluntary action. Don't mean to sound negative, but is there a word with less negative connotation than 'infection'?

mhurron 12y ago
Why do you believe ios8 is being forced on people?
- nnnnni 12y ago
  In the interest of accuracy, iOS 8 is being forced on people through programs that require iOS 8. However, the historical trend has been to support up to two versions behind unless the program relies on something that is not available in the older versions.
  - mhurron 12y ago
    No, people are choosing to upgrade to ios8 if it is required by the applications that they chose to run. They could also choose to run comparable software that does not require ios8 and not upgrade at all.
- FloppyCopy 12y ago
  You do have a choice, but it's between an OS with unpatched vulnerabilities and iOS 8. If you care a little about security, you're forced to upgrade. Attackers don't necessarily need much time to compare the two versions and understand the vulnerabilities that were fixed. It's not about Apple being evil, it's the nature of computer security today. However they could backport security fixes, if they wanted to leave a period of time where people have a meaningful choice between freshness and stability.
  - mhurron 12y ago
    It looks like Apple supports IOS releases with the same frequency as OS X, that being n-1. IOS6 probably won't be getting any more patches, but IOS7 should be for the next year or so. So even patching is not forcing anyone.
    - FloppyCopy 12y ago
      According to http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222 the last time version n-1 was updated for a security vulnerability was 6.1.6, and it was updated at the same time as version n. There's no iOS 7.1.3 that would fix any of the many vulnerabilities fixed in iOS 8: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6441 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6441 , and it's likely there won't ever be. For example, CVE-2014-4377 ("Opening a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution") or any of the WebKit vulnerabilities are a pretty big deal.
bdcravens 12y ago
Full version upgrades always prompt the user.
rsynnott 12y ago
At this point, I don't think it has even started prompting; these will be people who either knew iOS8 was available, or saw the little '1' on the settings app. Apple doesn't do mandatory updates.

Maybe it's just me, but 'adoption' sounds like a purely voluntary action. Don't mean to sound negative, but is there a word with less negative connotation than 'infection'?

mhurron 12y ago

Why do you believe ios8 is being forced on people?

nnnnni 12y ago
In the interest of accuracy, iOS 8 is being forced on people through programs that require iOS 8. However, the historical trend has been to support up to two versions behind unless the program relies on something that is not available in the older versions.
- mhurron 12y ago
  No, people are choosing to upgrade to ios8 if it is required by the applications that they chose to run. They could also choose to run comparable software that does not require ios8 and not upgrade at all.
FloppyCopy 12y ago
You do have a choice, but it's between an OS with unpatched vulnerabilities and iOS 8. If you care a little about security, you're forced to upgrade. Attackers don't necessarily need much time to compare the two versions and understand the vulnerabilities that were fixed. It's not about Apple being evil, it's the nature of computer security today. However they could backport security fixes, if they wanted to leave a period of time where people have a meaningful choice between freshness and stability.
- mhurron 12y ago
  It looks like Apple supports IOS releases with the same frequency as OS X, that being n-1. IOS6 probably won't be getting any more patches, but IOS7 should be for the next year or so. So even patching is not forcing anyone.
  - FloppyCopy 12y ago
    According to http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222 the last time version n-1 was updated for a security vulnerability was 6.1.6, and it was updated at the same time as version n. There's no iOS 7.1.3 that would fix any of the many vulnerabilities fixed in iOS 8: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6441 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6441 , and it's likely there won't ever be. For example, CVE-2014-4377 ("Opening a maliciously crafted PDF file may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution") or any of the WebKit vulnerabilities are a pretty big deal.

bdcravens 12y ago

Full version upgrades always prompt the user.

rsynnott 12y ago

At this point, I don't think it has even started prompting; these will be people who either knew iOS8 was available, or saw the little '1' on the settings app. Apple doesn't do mandatory updates.