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iOS 8 Adoption at 46% After Five Days

21 points by downandout 12y ago

idreams 12y ago
i feel the ios 8 is still a bit buggy!!
- draugadrotten 12y ago
  Maybe, but the Apple Wave feature alone is worth upgrading! http://i.imgur.com/TX9dbK6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TX9dbK6.jpg
  - nnnnni 12y ago
    Just in case someone doesn't realize it, "Wave" is a joke/troll...
- bdcravens 12y ago
  Sometimes my custom keyboard disappears (using SwiftType). Numeric unlock in Cloud Magic doesn't work; I have to close and reopen. I have 2 apps with swipeable photo-galleries that get "stuck" and cant' swipe (one of which has released a big iOS 8 update and still has behavior). (These may be app issues, not OS necessarily, but that's mostly irrelevant)
  - nicwolff 12y ago
    Exact same here, I'm using Fleksy keyboard app and it sometimes just disappears; and Redditur's swipable photo gallery gets stuck.
- cmelbye 12y ago
  It's very buggy. I installed the GM and fully expected a second GM because of all the bugs I saw. But nope, they shipped it.
ayrx 12y ago
Whatever your personal thoughts are on iOS and Apple, you can't deny that it's amazing how fast Apple can push through new updates which is a good thing for both developers who can rely on a larger userbase for new APIs and security.
- danso 12y ago
  Even more amazing to me is the high rate of adoption given how massive the download (~4GB) was. I had to clean up apps from my 64GB ipad to make room (though with 64GB, I tend to carelessly collect apps, and Amazon Instant video will just download tens of GB if I'm not careful). Anecdotally, I can think of a couple friends this past month in which, on a normal day, had to stop taking pictures/selfies because their phone HD was too full...It's easy enough to delete GB of movies, but photos? It doesn't help that deleting media/apps just from the phone is a pain in the ass, and syncing with iTunes is arcane even to a longtime iOS/Apple user as myself. So I have to imagine this 46% are the folks who happen to have well-maintained disk space...but 4GB won't be trivial for people with 16GB phones that have collected music/photos/video for a couple years now.
  - daigoba66 12y ago
    I installed iTunes over the weekend (I don't own a Mac) just to perform the update. It was fairly quick and painless, and saved me from needing to delete a ton of stuff from my 16GB iPhone, which I foolishly did for the iOS 7 update. I uninstalled iTunes as soon as it was complete.
  - ayrx 12y ago
    Is it really that difficult to use iTunes? There are some tricky things to take note related to overriding data if you are not already using iTunes to sync stuff but it's amazingly seamless once you get that in place. The software is crap on Windows (because of the whole compat layer) but it works pretty well on OS X IMO.
  - r00fus 12y ago
    You can just use iTunes to do the OS upgrade, and bypass the subsequent sync process. It will save you having to free up much space on our iPhone - IIRC, it takes only 1.5GB free space.
GilbertErik 12y ago
Maybe it's just me, but 'adoption' sounds like a purely voluntary action. Don't mean to sound negative, but is there a word with less negative connotation than 'infection'?
- mhurron 12y ago
  Why do you believe ios8 is being forced on people?
  - nnnnni 12y ago
    In the interest of accuracy, iOS 8 is being forced on people through programs that require iOS 8. However, the historical trend has been to support up to two versions behind unless the program relies on something that is not available in the older versions.
    - mhurron 12y ago
      No, people are choosing to upgrade to ios8 if it is required by the applications that they chose to run. They could also choose to run comparable software that does not require ios8 and not upgrade at all.
  - FloppyCopy 12y ago
    You do have a choice, but it's between an OS with unpatched vulnerabilities and iOS 8. If you care a little about security, you're forced to upgrade. Attackers don't necessarily need much time to compare the two versions and understand the vulnerabilities that were fixed. It's not about Apple being evil, it's the nature of computer security today. However they could backport security fixes, if they wanted to leave a period of time where people have a meaningful choice between freshness and stability.
    - mhurron 12y ago
      It looks like Apple supports IOS releases with the same frequency as OS X, that being n-1. IOS6 probably won't be getting any more patches, but IOS7 should be for the next year or so. So even patching is not forcing anyone.
bdcravens 12y ago
I sold an iPhone not long ago, one that still had iOS 6. Seems that it sold at a bit of a premium, and that was the likely reason.
- rsynnott 12y ago
  Funnily enough, one market for those is people who want them for testing; iOS6 in particular is a problem, because the only device that got left on it was the 3GS.
  - shaggyfrog 12y ago
    iPod Touch 4th gen also tops out at iOS 6.
  - bdcravens 12y ago
    Yeah, this was an iPhone 4.
nnnnni 12y ago
I suspect that there are quite a few people like myself who are waiting for a jailbreak to be released before upgrading.
- melling 12y ago
  I thought that you couldn't use the App Store if you jail broke your phone? That's how Apple gets it statistics.
ecesena 12y ago
I'm really surprised, it seems pretty much on track with iOS7, that was 58% after 7 days [1]. I thought that the space requirement would slow down adoption (I still have to change because of that). [1] http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/26/ios-7-adoption-rate-much-higher-than-previous-releases-now-approaching-60-percent-overall/ http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/26/ios-7-adoption-rate-much-highe...
downandout 12y ago
By contrast... https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

21 points by downandout 12y ago

idreams 12y ago

i feel the ios 8 is still a bit buggy!!

draugadrotten 12y ago
Maybe, but the Apple Wave feature alone is worth upgrading! http://i.imgur.com/TX9dbK6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TX9dbK6.jpg
- nnnnni 12y ago
  Just in case someone doesn't realize it, "Wave" is a joke/troll...
bdcravens 12y ago
Sometimes my custom keyboard disappears (using SwiftType). Numeric unlock in Cloud Magic doesn't work; I have to close and reopen. I have 2 apps with swipeable photo-galleries that get "stuck" and cant' swipe (one of which has released a big iOS 8 update and still has behavior). (These may be app issues, not OS necessarily, but that's mostly irrelevant)
- nicwolff 12y ago
  Exact same here, I'm using Fleksy keyboard app and it sometimes just disappears; and Redditur's swipable photo gallery gets stuck.
cmelbye 12y ago
It's very buggy. I installed the GM and fully expected a second GM because of all the bugs I saw. But nope, they shipped it.

ayrx 12y ago

Whatever your personal thoughts are on iOS and Apple, you can't deny that it's amazing how fast Apple can push through new updates which is a good thing for both developers who can rely on a larger userbase for new APIs and security.

danso 12y ago
Even more amazing to me is the high rate of adoption given how massive the download (~4GB) was. I had to clean up apps from my 64GB ipad to make room (though with 64GB, I tend to carelessly collect apps, and Amazon Instant video will just download tens of GB if I'm not careful). Anecdotally, I can think of a couple friends this past month in which, on a normal day, had to stop taking pictures/selfies because their phone HD was too full...It's easy enough to delete GB of movies, but photos? It doesn't help that deleting media/apps just from the phone is a pain in the ass, and syncing with iTunes is arcane even to a longtime iOS/Apple user as myself. So I have to imagine this 46% are the folks who happen to have well-maintained disk space...but 4GB won't be trivial for people with 16GB phones that have collected music/photos/video for a couple years now.
- daigoba66 12y ago
  I installed iTunes over the weekend (I don't own a Mac) just to perform the update. It was fairly quick and painless, and saved me from needing to delete a ton of stuff from my 16GB iPhone, which I foolishly did for the iOS 7 update. I uninstalled iTunes as soon as it was complete.
- ayrx 12y ago
  Is it really that difficult to use iTunes? There are some tricky things to take note related to overriding data if you are not already using iTunes to sync stuff but it's amazingly seamless once you get that in place. The software is crap on Windows (because of the whole compat layer) but it works pretty well on OS X IMO.
- r00fus 12y ago
  You can just use iTunes to do the OS upgrade, and bypass the subsequent sync process. It will save you having to free up much space on our iPhone - IIRC, it takes only 1.5GB free space.

GilbertErik 12y ago

Maybe it's just me, but 'adoption' sounds like a purely voluntary action. Don't mean to sound negative, but is there a word with less negative connotation than 'infection'?

mhurron 12y ago
Why do you believe ios8 is being forced on people?
- nnnnni 12y ago
  In the interest of accuracy, iOS 8 is being forced on people through programs that require iOS 8. However, the historical trend has been to support up to two versions behind unless the program relies on something that is not available in the older versions.
  - mhurron 12y ago
    No, people are choosing to upgrade to ios8 if it is required by the applications that they chose to run. They could also choose to run comparable software that does not require ios8 and not upgrade at all.
- FloppyCopy 12y ago
  You do have a choice, but it's between an OS with unpatched vulnerabilities and iOS 8. If you care a little about security, you're forced to upgrade. Attackers don't necessarily need much time to compare the two versions and understand the vulnerabilities that were fixed. It's not about Apple being evil, it's the nature of computer security today. However they could backport security fixes, if they wanted to leave a period of time where people have a meaningful choice between freshness and stability.
  - mhurron 12y ago
    It looks like Apple supports IOS releases with the same frequency as OS X, that being n-1. IOS6 probably won't be getting any more patches, but IOS7 should be for the next year or so. So even patching is not forcing anyone.

bdcravens 12y ago

I sold an iPhone not long ago, one that still had iOS 6. Seems that it sold at a bit of a premium, and that was the likely reason.

rsynnott 12y ago
Funnily enough, one market for those is people who want them for testing; iOS6 in particular is a problem, because the only device that got left on it was the 3GS.
- shaggyfrog 12y ago
  iPod Touch 4th gen also tops out at iOS 6.
- bdcravens 12y ago
  Yeah, this was an iPhone 4.

nnnnni 12y ago

I suspect that there are quite a few people like myself who are waiting for a jailbreak to be released before upgrading.

melling 12y ago
I thought that you couldn't use the App Store if you jail broke your phone? That's how Apple gets it statistics.

ecesena 12y ago

I'm really surprised, it seems pretty much on track with iOS7, that was 58% after 7 days [1]. I thought that the space requirement would slow down adoption (I still have to change because of that). [1] http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/26/ios-7-adoption-rate-much-higher-than-previous-releases-now-approaching-60-percent-overall/ http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/26/ios-7-adoption-rate-much-highe...

downandout 12y ago

By contrast... https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html