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Politicized, garbage headline. Statism has no place in the startup community.

idlewords 12y ago
The startup community is the spoiled child of decades of statist initiatives. That probably explains the petulant libertarianism.
- MCRed 12y ago
  So, basically you just called the startup community and libertarians childish and petulant. Have you got something more than name calling?
  - eevilspock 12y ago
    Have you? > That you have chosen this as your avenue of response, I take as a concession of my points in completion and admission of intellectual bankruptcy. > No, but they are uncomfortable, hence the down votes. Alas, this is not a site with high intellectual integrity. > I wonder how many of them have, rather than burning the book, decided to read it and think about it for themselves? > so you feel comfortable impeaching your intellectual integrity. > But Hacker News has had a very strong left bias, and a draconian moderation policy going back at least to 2008. You risk being hellbanned for linking to scientific papers here if the papers don't agree with the ideology of the moderators (who, like all unaccountable entities, like to remain anonymous.)
noarchy 12y ago
As your comment shows, the topic might indeed be relevant to HN, given the libertarian bent of some in today's startup scene. The submission was no doubt intended to stir up debate about libertarianism. There are some who are made uncomfortable by what they see as inroads being made by libertarians and their ideology, so some push-back is taking place.
- MCRed 12y ago
  Weird. I've seen libertarianism blossom everywhere except seemingly in silicon valley which seems to have gone hard leftist since the initial early pioneers (who were libertainsl-- like Jobs and Wozniak) have left the scene. But Hacker News has had a very strong left bias, and a draconian moderation policy going back at least to 2008. You risk being hellbanned for linking to scientific papers here if the papers don't agree with the ideology of the moderators (who, like all unaccountable entities, like to remain anonymous.)
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  - noarchy 12y ago
    >Weird. I've seen libertarianism blossom everywhere except >seemingly in silicon valley which seems to have gone hard >leftist since the initial early pioneers (who were >libertainsl-- like Jobs and Wozniak) have left the scene. I don't live in Silicon Valley, so I can't tell you any of my first-hand impressions of the area, being that I have none. But what I have noticed is what I perceive to be an increase in articles that discuss 'libertarianism' stemming from the startup scene, often with some alarm. This gets mentioned in conjunction with things ranging from Uber turning its nose up at taxi regulation, to Google's efforts to provide private bus service to its employees, to the effects of gentrification in San Francisco. That said, again, I don't live there. I'm in the Ottawa, Canada area, which is a relatively sleepy town of bureaucrats that also happens to have a fairly healthy tech scene. You wouldn't call this area 'libertarian' by any remote stretch.

The startup community is the spoiled child of decades of statist initiatives. That probably explains the petulant libertarianism.

MCRed 12y ago
So, basically you just called the startup community and libertarians childish and petulant. Have you got something more than name calling?
- eevilspock 12y ago
  Have you? > That you have chosen this as your avenue of response, I take as a concession of my points in completion and admission of intellectual bankruptcy. > No, but they are uncomfortable, hence the down votes. Alas, this is not a site with high intellectual integrity. > I wonder how many of them have, rather than burning the book, decided to read it and think about it for themselves? > so you feel comfortable impeaching your intellectual integrity. > But Hacker News has had a very strong left bias, and a draconian moderation policy going back at least to 2008. You risk being hellbanned for linking to scientific papers here if the papers don't agree with the ideology of the moderators (who, like all unaccountable entities, like to remain anonymous.)

noarchy 12y ago

As your comment shows, the topic might indeed be relevant to HN, given the libertarian bent of some in today's startup scene. The submission was no doubt intended to stir up debate about libertarianism. There are some who are made uncomfortable by what they see as inroads being made by libertarians and their ideology, so some push-back is taking place.

MCRed 12y ago
Weird. I've seen libertarianism blossom everywhere except seemingly in silicon valley which seems to have gone hard leftist since the initial early pioneers (who were libertainsl-- like Jobs and Wozniak) have left the scene. But Hacker News has had a very strong left bias, and a draconian moderation policy going back at least to 2008. You risk being hellbanned for linking to scientific papers here if the papers don't agree with the ideology of the moderators (who, like all unaccountable entities, like to remain anonymous.)
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- noarchy 12y ago
  >Weird. I've seen libertarianism blossom everywhere except >seemingly in silicon valley which seems to have gone hard >leftist since the initial early pioneers (who were >libertainsl-- like Jobs and Wozniak) have left the scene. I don't live in Silicon Valley, so I can't tell you any of my first-hand impressions of the area, being that I have none. But what I have noticed is what I perceive to be an increase in articles that discuss 'libertarianism' stemming from the startup scene, often with some alarm. This gets mentioned in conjunction with things ranging from Uber turning its nose up at taxi regulation, to Google's efforts to provide private bus service to its employees, to the effects of gentrification in San Francisco. That said, again, I don't live there. I'm in the Ottawa, Canada area, which is a relatively sleepy town of bureaucrats that also happens to have a fairly healthy tech scene. You wouldn't call this area 'libertarian' by any remote stretch.