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> Others, like Yahoo and Adobe, get panned for similar moves as trying to eliminate competing products or otherwise flailing capital. Yahoo destroys everything

> Others, like Yahoo and Adobe, get panned for similar moves as trying to eliminate competing products or otherwise flailing capital. Yahoo destroys everything it touches, except Flick (which could have been Instagram before there was Instagram...but settled on just being good enough to stay alive). Adobe makes a lot of bloated, expensive products of questionable value. It's not a horrible company, but nobody would benefit from them having a monopoly.

liquidise 12y ago
Let's be clear: a mobile photo editing app is in not a Photoshop competitor. Adobe products are created for professionals. They are not bloated, they are filled with tons of features that save artists time. Case in point: watch a photoshop keynote and see the crowd reactions. As for yahoo, you have done well to demonstrate my point concisely.
- CaptainZapp 12y ago
  Adobe products are created for professionals. This is undoubtedly the case. What boggles the mind, though, is that a company, which caters to pros first forces them into the cloud, to then run into a massive outage, which renders those products, on which pros rely, useless. For hours, or days. [1] Let's also not forget the Dmitry Sklyarov affair, which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And I believe, rightfully so. [2] Their online security also doesn't seem quite up to scratch for a company priding itself on its offerings for professionals. There are a lot of reasons to intensely dislike Adobe as a company without even looking at their product offerings. [1] http://www.techrepublic.com/article/adobe-creative-cloud-outage-workaround-highlights-drm-issues/ http://www.techrepublic.com/article/adobe-creative-cloud-out... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._ElcomSoft_and_Sklyarov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._ElcomSoft_and_...
  - 1stop 12y ago
    The Licensing component is in the cloud, not the software. The "outage" was by-passable by dropping your internet connection when you opened the app(s). (Not ideal, but still a decent work-around). What has "online security" got to do with Desktop publishing and photo editing (neither of which occur online)? What are the reasons to intensely dislike them for? There is not even a decent competitor to Photoshop, Illustrator, or InDesign (Pixelmator and Sketch are both great, but not anywhere near the breadth of Adobe's products... and that still leaves InDesign)... So if you 'intensely dislike' them and think they are so inadequate, then surely you can disrupt them fairly easily, no?

liquidise 12y ago

Let's be clear: a mobile photo editing app is in not a Photoshop competitor. Adobe products are created for professionals. They are not bloated, they are filled with tons of features that save artists time. Case in point: watch a photoshop keynote and see the crowd reactions. As for yahoo, you have done well to demonstrate my point concisely.

CaptainZapp 12y ago
Adobe products are created for professionals. This is undoubtedly the case. What boggles the mind, though, is that a company, which caters to pros first forces them into the cloud, to then run into a massive outage, which renders those products, on which pros rely, useless. For hours, or days. [1] Let's also not forget the Dmitry Sklyarov affair, which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And I believe, rightfully so. [2] Their online security also doesn't seem quite up to scratch for a company priding itself on its offerings for professionals. There are a lot of reasons to intensely dislike Adobe as a company without even looking at their product offerings. [1] http://www.techrepublic.com/article/adobe-creative-cloud-outage-workaround-highlights-drm-issues/ http://www.techrepublic.com/article/adobe-creative-cloud-out... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._ElcomSoft_and_Sklyarov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._ElcomSoft_and_...
- 1stop 12y ago
  The Licensing component is in the cloud, not the software. The "outage" was by-passable by dropping your internet connection when you opened the app(s). (Not ideal, but still a decent work-around). What has "online security" got to do with Desktop publishing and photo editing (neither of which occur online)? What are the reasons to intensely dislike them for? There is not even a decent competitor to Photoshop, Illustrator, or InDesign (Pixelmator and Sketch are both great, but not anywhere near the breadth of Adobe's products... and that still leaves InDesign)... So if you 'intensely dislike' them and think they are so inadequate, then surely you can disrupt them fairly easily, no?