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Shine on, Terry, you crazy diamond. If nothing else, TempleOS is a testament to how much one programmer can accomplish absent feedback or collaboration from ot

Shine on, Terry, you crazy diamond. If nothing else, TempleOS is a testament to how much one programmer can accomplish absent feedback or collaboration from others. For better or worse.

gohrt 12y ago
> Shine on, Terry, you crazy diamond. This is clearly a statement of adoration, but even still, it is anti-helpful to perpetuate the use of the word "crazy" in conversations that touch on mental health.
- vlunkr 12y ago
  Someone aught to tell Pink Floyd then
- mkal_tsr 12y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_On_You_Crazy_Diamond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_On_You_Crazy_Diamond --- I noticed you wrote a 28.0 word per sentence comment, with an average of 4.7 characters per word. This parent comment may be difficult for someone under the age of 8 to understand, and we may have a child accidentally browse HN. Please remember to think of the children. Don't use words that have multiple meanings, this could cause confusion in their lives. Yours truly, Thought Police
- arh68 12y ago
  Shine On is incredibly on-point here, since Syd Barrett himself went "crazy" to a degree and dropped out of the band. It's not a adoration of the person, it's an appreciation for Syd's inspiration or work. I'm not in Pink Floyd, but I very much like and appreciate the song.
  - mkal_tsr 12y ago
    It's more than that. This is an exact example of someone not understanding context, not using tools available to understand context, and then projecting their thoughts and beliefs onto someone else, all while completely avoidable. If you have the means to read the comment on the internet, you also have the means to search that phrase or set of words and immediately see it's connected to a Pink Floyd song. Even if you don't do the search, you're still projecting yourself onto their words. "Crazy diamond" ... what makes a diamond a 'typical' diamond? Sharp/precise, clear, focused. Now let's look at 'crazy' - typically means extremely far beyond the average/normal point. Literally 'off the charts' but in this context, mentally off the charts. To be in possession of such qualities so strong that we can't even think about how possible that is, but here we have something that demonstrates that. A person that wrote their own hobbyist kernel and OS. Is that easy to do? Show me your custom kernel & OS. Oh, don't have one? Then how many people do you personally know that have pretty much single handedly done that? Probably not that many. So you don't have a primary or secondary sources that you can speak to the dedication and depth of effort for this this task/accomplishment. It removes power from the one actually being discussed as to encourage others to speak on the individuals' behalf, thus less emphasis and power on their own self-representation and more importantly, their own voice. I think it is a perfect description: someone who is so clear and focused in their passion and pursuit of it to the extent that we can not comprehend the effort to achieve what he single handedly did, and the clear focused and beautiful nature of what they've created, straddling between pure effort and pure art. I think it's a very humanizing thing to show that mental illness is not inherently dangerous and not inherently bad and that those either showing signs or suffering are people first and foremost, and we should listen to what they have to say, not voices that claim to represent them.

Shine on, Terry, you crazy diamond. If nothing else, TempleOS is a testament to how much one programmer can accomplish absent feedback or collaboration from others. For better or worse.

gohrt 12y ago

> Shine on, Terry, you crazy diamond. This is clearly a statement of adoration, but even still, it is anti-helpful to perpetuate the use of the word "crazy" in conversations that touch on mental health.

vlunkr 12y ago
Someone aught to tell Pink Floyd then
mkal_tsr 12y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_On_You_Crazy_Diamond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_On_You_Crazy_Diamond --- I noticed you wrote a 28.0 word per sentence comment, with an average of 4.7 characters per word. This parent comment may be difficult for someone under the age of 8 to understand, and we may have a child accidentally browse HN. Please remember to think of the children. Don't use words that have multiple meanings, this could cause confusion in their lives. Yours truly, Thought Police
arh68 12y ago
Shine On is incredibly on-point here, since Syd Barrett himself went "crazy" to a degree and dropped out of the band. It's not a adoration of the person, it's an appreciation for Syd's inspiration or work. I'm not in Pink Floyd, but I very much like and appreciate the song.
- mkal_tsr 12y ago
  It's more than that. This is an exact example of someone not understanding context, not using tools available to understand context, and then projecting their thoughts and beliefs onto someone else, all while completely avoidable. If you have the means to read the comment on the internet, you also have the means to search that phrase or set of words and immediately see it's connected to a Pink Floyd song. Even if you don't do the search, you're still projecting yourself onto their words. "Crazy diamond" ... what makes a diamond a 'typical' diamond? Sharp/precise, clear, focused. Now let's look at 'crazy' - typically means extremely far beyond the average/normal point. Literally 'off the charts' but in this context, mentally off the charts. To be in possession of such qualities so strong that we can't even think about how possible that is, but here we have something that demonstrates that. A person that wrote their own hobbyist kernel and OS. Is that easy to do? Show me your custom kernel & OS. Oh, don't have one? Then how many people do you personally know that have pretty much single handedly done that? Probably not that many. So you don't have a primary or secondary sources that you can speak to the dedication and depth of effort for this this task/accomplishment. It removes power from the one actually being discussed as to encourage others to speak on the individuals' behalf, thus less emphasis and power on their own self-representation and more importantly, their own voice. I think it is a perfect description: someone who is so clear and focused in their passion and pursuit of it to the extent that we can not comprehend the effort to achieve what he single handedly did, and the clear focused and beautiful nature of what they've created, straddling between pure effort and pure art. I think it's a very humanizing thing to show that mental illness is not inherently dangerous and not inherently bad and that those either showing signs or suffering are people first and foremost, and we should listen to what they have to say, not voices that claim to represent them.