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> Psychedelics kill noone. Their LD50 is usually too high. Perhaps, for pure 'traditional' psychedelics like LSD. (I'm not sure if there are any known direct t

by shabble 12y ago

> Psychedelics kill noone. Their LD50 is usually too high. Perhaps, for pure 'traditional' psychedelics like LSD. (I'm not sure if there are any known direct toxicity-related deaths from it, including doses ~1000x typical). MDMA, on the other hand, can cause fatal hyperthermia or serotonin syndrome at ~10x typical dose. Some of the 'novel psychoactive substances' gaining recent popularity due to their ambiguous legal status have much, much worse safety profiles. The 2C-x-NBOMe family is especially troublesome in that regard. Also, consider exactly what the 50 in LD50 means. And we won't even consider 'drug-related' fatalities, since it's even harder to find unbiased reporting on them as a class. It might be a very small number (and I believe it is), but it ain't zero.

DanBC 12y ago
> Perhaps, for pure 'traditional' psychedelics like LSD. (I'm not sure if there are any known direct toxicity-related deaths from it, including doses ~1000x typical). MDMA, on the other hand, can cause fatal hyperthermia or serotonin syndrome at ~10x typical dose. There is the elephant that died after a massive overdose of LSD. I'm mot sure if the LSD killed it or the exertion it went through after being given the LSD killed it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusko#The_elephant_on_LSD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusko#The_elephant_on_LSD
- simonster 12y ago
  There is a case where 8 people snorted two lines of pure LSD each thinking it was cocaine (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129381/pdf/westjmed00307-0025.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129381/pdf/west...). All survived with no lasting effects, although they were fortunate to receive emergency medical care within 15 minutes after administration. 5 were comatose and 3 were in respiratory arrest, but unlike the elephant none experienced convulsions.
sedachv 12y ago
Psilocybin mushrooms can cause allergic reactions: http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/mu/allergy_psilocybe.html http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/mu/allergy_psilocybe.html

by shabble 12y ago

DanBC 12y ago

> Perhaps, for pure 'traditional' psychedelics like LSD. (I'm not sure if there are any known direct toxicity-related deaths from it, including doses ~1000x typical). MDMA, on the other hand, can cause fatal hyperthermia or serotonin syndrome at ~10x typical dose. There is the elephant that died after a massive overdose of LSD. I'm mot sure if the LSD killed it or the exertion it went through after being given the LSD killed it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusko#The_elephant_on_LSD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tusko#The_elephant_on_LSD

simonster 12y ago
There is a case where 8 people snorted two lines of pure LSD each thinking it was cocaine (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129381/pdf/westjmed00307-0025.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129381/pdf/west...). All survived with no lasting effects, although they were fortunate to receive emergency medical care within 15 minutes after administration. 5 were comatose and 3 were in respiratory arrest, but unlike the elephant none experienced convulsions.

sedachv 12y ago

Psilocybin mushrooms can cause allergic reactions: http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/mu/allergy_psilocybe.html http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/mu/allergy_psilocybe.html