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Interesting, so I'm presuming there's several VPNs involved between the load-balancer and all the discrete servers. I wonder if they use a VPN provider with a s

Interesting, so I'm presuming there's several VPNs involved between the load-balancer and all the discrete servers. I wonder if they use a VPN provider with a static IP and no-logs policy or if it's simply yet another VPS. I'd love to hear a little more about the architecture.

icedchai 12y ago
Why would they use a VPN provider? It's trivial to set up your own if you control the systems at both ends.
- TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
  Assuming at least one side isn't under a NAT, true. Otherwise it gets... "fun".
  - the_mitsuhiko 12y ago
    A NAT does not stop you if you do it right. Console games have been hosting servers through NATs for the last decade.
    - TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
      As I said: it gets "fun", especially if you want to do it without a third server to set up the connection. Still doable, just "fun".
      - tacotime 12y ago
        I would speculate that the massive advertising revenue generated by the 'bay probably renders any such 'fun' factor trivial.
  - dlgeek 12y ago
    Why would you be under a NAT? A public IP and a networking allotment is one of the core offerings of almost every cloud provider out there.
- Nanzikambe 12y ago
  To make the legal side effects "Somebody Else's Problem"? seeing as that's the service many VPN providers offer. Might save them having to get new load balancer VPS quite so often, making it that much harder and more time consuming to knock offline. I don't know, that's why I'm asking though.
cookrn 12y ago
If memory serves, I think TPB is somehow related to iPredator [1][2], though I'm not sure if that is the case anymore. This may give them _lots_ of experience running VPN software, which would be usable if that is indeed how they're communicating between VPS providers. [1] https://www.ipredator.se/ https://www.ipredator.se/ [2] http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-ipredator-global-anonymity-service-090323/ http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-ipredator-globa...

icedchai 12y ago

Why would they use a VPN provider? It's trivial to set up your own if you control the systems at both ends.

TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
Assuming at least one side isn't under a NAT, true. Otherwise it gets... "fun".
- the_mitsuhiko 12y ago
  A NAT does not stop you if you do it right. Console games have been hosting servers through NATs for the last decade.
  - TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
    As I said: it gets "fun", especially if you want to do it without a third server to set up the connection. Still doable, just "fun".
    - tacotime 12y ago
      I would speculate that the massive advertising revenue generated by the 'bay probably renders any such 'fun' factor trivial.
- dlgeek 12y ago
  Why would you be under a NAT? A public IP and a networking allotment is one of the core offerings of almost every cloud provider out there.
Nanzikambe 12y ago
To make the legal side effects "Somebody Else's Problem"? seeing as that's the service many VPN providers offer. Might save them having to get new load balancer VPS quite so often, making it that much harder and more time consuming to knock offline. I don't know, that's why I'm asking though.

cookrn 12y ago

If memory serves, I think TPB is somehow related to iPredator [1][2], though I'm not sure if that is the case anymore. This may give them _lots_ of experience running VPN software, which would be usable if that is indeed how they're communicating between VPS providers. [1] https://www.ipredator.se/ https://www.ipredator.se/ [2] http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-ipredator-global-anonymity-service-090323/ http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-announces-ipredator-globa...