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That statement cuts both ways... If it is a choice between good and evil, the obvious moral choice is good. It is only a moral decision when it is between two

by McDoku 12y ago

That statement cuts both ways... If it is a choice between good and evil, the obvious moral choice is good. It is only a moral decision when it is between two evils. Determining the lesser and potentially sacrificing for the common good. This the primary responsibly of any leader responsible for strategic decision making. As you said, this means making sacrifices for the common good.

MCRed 12y ago
No, good and evil are clear choices. Irradiating the flying public, taking pornographic pictures or molesting children are all evil, and Obama could have stopped that. Domestic spying, Obama could have stopped it. Hell closing guantanamo, he didn't even do that. And that's a straight up operation in violation of the constitution top to bottom. We may have the choice between two evils at election time, but no politician is forced to choose evil.
- McDoku 12y ago
  Okay here is an example. Enigma machine in WW2. Do you let a city get bombed and lose 10k lives or reveal that you have broken a code and lose the war? How do you act and why?
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    - McDoku 12y ago
      I'd argue it would not be an 'easy' decision. Numbers could be a criteria, but either way this is where moral philosophy really comes into play. I am disturbed at times how black and white many people see these decision. Greater good is a perspective and it like anything else is we do...uncertain.
- mijoharas 12y ago
  > Irradiating the flying public, taking pornographic pictures or molesting children are all evil, and Obama could have stopped that. Sorry, what are you talking about?
  - Kliment 12y ago
    I'd venture a guess it's the TSA, with the backscatter machines (radiation), millimeter wave machines (pornographic pictures - not really but definitely privacy-invading) and groping people inappropriately, including children all having been or still being policy during the Obama administration's operation, and the president having direct control over the TSA.

by McDoku 12y ago

MCRed 12y ago

No, good and evil are clear choices. Irradiating the flying public, taking pornographic pictures or molesting children are all evil, and Obama could have stopped that. Domestic spying, Obama could have stopped it. Hell closing guantanamo, he didn't even do that. And that's a straight up operation in violation of the constitution top to bottom. We may have the choice between two evils at election time, but no politician is forced to choose evil.

McDoku 12y ago
Okay here is an example. Enigma machine in WW2. Do you let a city get bombed and lose 10k lives or reveal that you have broken a code and lose the war? How do you act and why?
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  - McDoku 12y ago
    I'd argue it would not be an 'easy' decision. Numbers could be a criteria, but either way this is where moral philosophy really comes into play. I am disturbed at times how black and white many people see these decision. Greater good is a perspective and it like anything else is we do...uncertain.
mijoharas 12y ago
> Irradiating the flying public, taking pornographic pictures or molesting children are all evil, and Obama could have stopped that. Sorry, what are you talking about?
- Kliment 12y ago
  I'd venture a guess it's the TSA, with the backscatter machines (radiation), millimeter wave machines (pornographic pictures - not really but definitely privacy-invading) and groping people inappropriately, including children all having been or still being policy during the Obama administration's operation, and the president having direct control over the TSA.