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> Entry level bandwidth on AWS/Azure/App engine is still very expensive How is that a net neutrality issue? > Companies should be paid for providing bandwidth

by mhurron 12y ago

> Entry level bandwidth on AWS/Azure/App engine is still very expensive How is that a net neutrality issue? > Companies should be paid for providing bandwidth They are, that's what you pay your ISP for and that's what Facebook pays their ISP for. However why should your ISP be able to demand money from Facebook? What you are proposing is exactly what the cable companies are proposing. Guess what, it doesn't fund competition because if, say Netflix, doesn't pay the protection money, they get throttled to hell where the cable companies service obviously doesn't. Now, Netflix might be large enough now to pay it so you say we have 'competition.' What about the next startup? The company that isn't large yet? That is where competition dies and that is what the cable companies plans are protecting.

7952 12y ago
>> Now, Netflix might be large enough now to pay it so you say we have 'competition.' What about the next startup? The company that isn't large yet? That is where competition dies and that is what the cable companies plans are protecting. That is why I mentioned AWS bandwidth pricing. Because bandwidth is usually much more expensive for a low usage startup than a big established. How is that not already a constraint to growth? Also, I am absolutely not in favour of throtteling connections based on payment. We need a fair system that can be applied with the same terms to everyone. If bandwidth is the big technical constraint why not regulate that instead of protecting shadowy peering agreements that only benefit large players.
- nitrogen 12y ago
  How is that not already a constraint to growth? It makes growth easy; the more you grow, the cheaper your bandwidth. Hosting bandwidth is already significantly cheaper than consumer bandwidth, and nobody is forcing you to use AWS. Bandwidth is not the "big technical constraint" as Level3 and Netflix have shown in various blog posts.

by mhurron 12y ago

7952 12y ago

>> Now, Netflix might be large enough now to pay it so you say we have 'competition.' What about the next startup? The company that isn't large yet? That is where competition dies and that is what the cable companies plans are protecting. That is why I mentioned AWS bandwidth pricing. Because bandwidth is usually much more expensive for a low usage startup than a big established. How is that not already a constraint to growth? Also, I am absolutely not in favour of throtteling connections based on payment. We need a fair system that can be applied with the same terms to everyone. If bandwidth is the big technical constraint why not regulate that instead of protecting shadowy peering agreements that only benefit large players.

nitrogen 12y ago
How is that not already a constraint to growth? It makes growth easy; the more you grow, the cheaper your bandwidth. Hosting bandwidth is already significantly cheaper than consumer bandwidth, and nobody is forcing you to use AWS. Bandwidth is not the "big technical constraint" as Level3 and Netflix have shown in various blog posts.