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but neither is any comment that includes the phrase "social justice warrior"

by zem 12y ago

Karunamon 12y ago
SJW's are a self-proclaimed group (much like "conservative" or "liberal" or "foodie") with some general, widely held beliefs within that group. Pretty hard to objectively discuss a group when you go out of your way to avoid describing them.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  Virtually every use of "social justice warrior" or "SJW" I've ever encountered has been using it as a label to stick on people who do not self-identify that way, usually as a personal attack, and I can find no evidence of the existence of such a "self-proclaimed" group; doing a search, the term appears to be entirely a hostile epithet ascribed to others, not a self-proclaimed group.
  - gnarbarian 12y ago
    They created the term (I believe on tumblr) and their universal insufferability has caused it to be associated negatively.
    - dragonwriter 12y ago
      Even if there is a group on tumblr or some other community that initiated the term as a self-proclaimed identity, and even if that group still exists and uses the identity, very few of the uses of the term in practice (none that I can find, including those that purport to present definitions of the term) use it to refer to that group particularly. So even if it started as such as self-proclaimed identity, the term isn't generally used in reference to that self-proclaimed identity.
      - gnarbarian 12y ago
        Not personally identifying with an identity that describes you due to negative connotations does not make it any less true. There are plenty of assholes in the world who don't consider themselves to be assholes.
  - Crito 12y ago
    I've met several people who self-identified as "social justice warriors" or "really into social justice". However I have only seen the initialism "SJW" used by people who are critical of the idea/people.
- DanBC 12y ago
  > objectively Your discussions of SJWs are not objective. Do you really believe that you are objective when discussing racism and sexism?

but neither is any comment that includes the phrase "social justice warrior"

by zem 12y ago

but neither is any comment that includes the phrase "social justice warrior"

SJW's are a self-proclaimed group (much like "conservative" or "liberal" or "foodie") with some general, widely held beliefs within that group. Pretty hard to objectively discuss a group when you go out of your way to avoid describing them.

dragonwriter 12y ago
Virtually every use of "social justice warrior" or "SJW" I've ever encountered has been using it as a label to stick on people who do not self-identify that way, usually as a personal attack, and I can find no evidence of the existence of such a "self-proclaimed" group; doing a search, the term appears to be entirely a hostile epithet ascribed to others, not a self-proclaimed group.
- gnarbarian 12y ago
  They created the term (I believe on tumblr) and their universal insufferability has caused it to be associated negatively.
  - dragonwriter 12y ago
    Even if there is a group on tumblr or some other community that initiated the term as a self-proclaimed identity, and even if that group still exists and uses the identity, very few of the uses of the term in practice (none that I can find, including those that purport to present definitions of the term) use it to refer to that group particularly. So even if it started as such as self-proclaimed identity, the term isn't generally used in reference to that self-proclaimed identity.
    - gnarbarian 12y ago
      Not personally identifying with an identity that describes you due to negative connotations does not make it any less true. There are plenty of assholes in the world who don't consider themselves to be assholes.
- Crito 12y ago
  I've met several people who self-identified as "social justice warriors" or "really into social justice". However I have only seen the initialism "SJW" used by people who are critical of the idea/people.
DanBC 12y ago
> objectively Your discussions of SJWs are not objective. Do you really believe that you are objective when discussing racism and sexism?