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You'll see similar wording from Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft. The way it works is they deny providing access to their servers but then push out the data to the

You'll see similar wording from Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft. The way it works is they deny providing access to their servers but then push out the data to the NSA's servers and are compensated for the cost of doing so. Access to the servers owned by the corporations is not what's important, it's availability of your data. None of these corporations say "we do not provide access to your data" they say "we do not provide access to our servers". As we all know data can easily be copied from one entity to another. Who needs backdoors when all the data is shipped out directly to NSA?

philwelch 12y ago
"we have never worked with any government agency from any country to create a backdoor in any of our products or services" seems to rule that out.
- Mandatum 12y ago
  A backdoor is a mechanism for someone to be given access to an internal system, or internal data. In the case of data being "pushed", it most certainly could be done so, and the same statement would remain true. If your comment was true, you would also assume data handed directly to authorities in criminal cases where subpoena's are issued would also be ruled out, but we know that information is handed out to authorities as required by law under subpoena.
- scintill76 12y ago
  Well, like GP said, it depends what is meant by "backdoor." Laws requiring data to be turned over to governmental parties, and in some cases gagging anyone from saying it happened, seems like exactly the function of "backdoor" even if it doesn't take the form of a master password the NSA has or something. So long as a company can be compelled to do this in secrecy, their assurances about "no backdoor", "no direct access", "we process every request ourselves" are basically meaningless, since not even they have control over their customers' privacy (if they comply with law.)

philwelch 12y ago

"we have never worked with any government agency from any country to create a backdoor in any of our products or services" seems to rule that out.

Mandatum 12y ago
A backdoor is a mechanism for someone to be given access to an internal system, or internal data. In the case of data being "pushed", it most certainly could be done so, and the same statement would remain true. If your comment was true, you would also assume data handed directly to authorities in criminal cases where subpoena's are issued would also be ruled out, but we know that information is handed out to authorities as required by law under subpoena.
scintill76 12y ago
Well, like GP said, it depends what is meant by "backdoor." Laws requiring data to be turned over to governmental parties, and in some cases gagging anyone from saying it happened, seems like exactly the function of "backdoor" even if it doesn't take the form of a master password the NSA has or something. So long as a company can be compelled to do this in secrecy, their assurances about "no backdoor", "no direct access", "we process every request ourselves" are basically meaningless, since not even they have control over their customers' privacy (if they comply with law.)