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The other killer iPhone app is Tweetie, a $3 Twitter client that, if you’re a Twitter user and have multiple accounts, is as indispensable as a needle to a hero

by unalone 17y ago

The other killer iPhone app is Tweetie, a $3 Twitter client that, if you’re a Twitter user and have multiple accounts, is as indispensable as a needle to a heroin addict. Oh, Wired. Continuing to destroy your credibility by insisting that a single client among dozens is a killer application if you use a certain website in a certain rare use case.

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ubernostrum 17y ago
Yeah, using Twitter is such an incredibly weird rare fringe thing these days. Next you'll tell me that this "web" thing isn't just a fad...
- unalone 17y ago
  You and your fucking snark. Hacker News is a place with lots of smart people saying smart things. Snark is for when people say something that is obviously stupid and not worth a debate. If you want to disagree with me, do it earnestly, because perhaps this is worth a discussion. Twitter is the #13 site globally according to Alexa. Does that mean that a Blogger app would be more of a killer app than a Twitter app? What about a MySpace app? MSN? Windows Live? Google? If I told you that the iPhone's killer app was a Google search, wouldn't that sound stupid? But Wired isn't just saying that. They're saying that Tweetie, one of a hundred Twitter applications, is a killer app and that the other applications aren't. Furthermore, Tweetie is a killer app if you use Twitter with multiple accounts. That is an incredible weird rare fringe thing. I'd bet most Twitter users have a single account. Now do you want to attempt sarcasm again? Because I'll warn you: Not only do I know more about what I'm arguing than you do, I'm a better snarker than you, and I will tear you to little fucking pieces. I remember when I joined HN and routinely felt dwarfed by the intellectual discourse here. Now I say something and the response is likely as not bullshit like yours. I feel so goddamn old.
  - w1ntermute 17y ago
    I remember when I joined HN and routinely felt dwarfed by the intellectual discourse here. Now I say something and the response is likely as not bullshit like yours. I feel so goddamn old. The funny thing is that ubernostrum joined HN just a few weeks after you did.
    - unalone 17y ago
      I know. I don't think it's just a matter of new users. It's a shift in what Hacker News is focusing on. The level of discourse has dropped.
  - kyro 17y ago
    I'm willing to bet that there is a huge overlap for iPhone and Twitter users, and for that subset, Tweetie can most definitely be considered a killer app. I get what you're trying to say with them mentioning a killer app be geared towards the user of a specific site, but really, that could be said about any killer app. The fart app is geared towards iPhone users AND fart sound lovers. iMob is geared towards iPhone users AND mob-style game lovers. All these apps have done wonderfully, and are apps I would consider killer. The point is, an iPhone app is killer because it appeals to a subset of users really really well. Additionally, I see nothing wrong in them pointing out Tweetie, even though it is one of billions. Design and user interface is a very important layer to take into account, especially with these iPhone apps, and Tweetie's design is very intuitive, in my opinion. Design has much to do with an app being killer as its underlying technology.
    - unalone 17y ago
      Tweetie is good, but it's not a killer app. A killer app's something that annihilates its competition. Tweetie doesn't annihilate anything. The iPhone is killer, but when Wired is making the argument of "Instapaper justifies your owning an iPhone", it hurts the argument a lot to add "just as much as this Twitter app will". Tweetie is nothing ultraspecial. Instapaper might be. It hurts to compare it to a web site client.
  - ubernostrum 17y ago
antidaily 17y ago
Tweetie is by far the best twitter client I've used. And 100% worthy of such high and arbitrary accolades.
- unalone 17y ago
  Its design is brilliant—I am similarly a fan, though I don't Twitter—but my point was that "killer app" means something that "the best twitter client I've ever used" does not.
- ivankirigin 17y ago
  Tweetdeck syncs with our desktop experience. For people that need to filter the stream to grok it better (read: eventually everyone), Tweetdeck is better.
  - danw 17y ago
    This reminds me of something Russell Davies spoke about at dConstruct. To paraphrase, TweetDeck is humans solving problems humans have created for themselves.
    - ivankirigin 17y ago
      Communication isn't a human invention.
      - danw 17y ago
        Twitter is a human invention. Written communication (arguably) is a human invention. Audio from the talk will be available on http://2009.dconstruct.org/podcast/ http://2009.dconstruct.org/podcast/ soon.
        ivankirigin 17y ago
        Tweetdeck also filters Facebook, and others soon too, I'd bet. Given enough time, it would work with your email / chats / voicemail / smoke signals etc. Filtering information is not a new idea at all.

by unalone 17y ago

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ubernostrum 17y ago

Yeah, using Twitter is such an incredibly weird rare fringe thing these days. Next you'll tell me that this "web" thing isn't just a fad...

unalone 17y ago
You and your fucking snark. Hacker News is a place with lots of smart people saying smart things. Snark is for when people say something that is obviously stupid and not worth a debate. If you want to disagree with me, do it earnestly, because perhaps this is worth a discussion. Twitter is the #13 site globally according to Alexa. Does that mean that a Blogger app would be more of a killer app than a Twitter app? What about a MySpace app? MSN? Windows Live? Google? If I told you that the iPhone's killer app was a Google search, wouldn't that sound stupid? But Wired isn't just saying that. They're saying that Tweetie, one of a hundred Twitter applications, is a killer app and that the other applications aren't. Furthermore, Tweetie is a killer app if you use Twitter with multiple accounts. That is an incredible weird rare fringe thing. I'd bet most Twitter users have a single account. Now do you want to attempt sarcasm again? Because I'll warn you: Not only do I know more about what I'm arguing than you do, I'm a better snarker than you, and I will tear you to little fucking pieces. I remember when I joined HN and routinely felt dwarfed by the intellectual discourse here. Now I say something and the response is likely as not bullshit like yours. I feel so goddamn old.
- w1ntermute 17y ago
  I remember when I joined HN and routinely felt dwarfed by the intellectual discourse here. Now I say something and the response is likely as not bullshit like yours. I feel so goddamn old. The funny thing is that ubernostrum joined HN just a few weeks after you did.
  - unalone 17y ago
    I know. I don't think it's just a matter of new users. It's a shift in what Hacker News is focusing on. The level of discourse has dropped.
- kyro 17y ago
  I'm willing to bet that there is a huge overlap for iPhone and Twitter users, and for that subset, Tweetie can most definitely be considered a killer app. I get what you're trying to say with them mentioning a killer app be geared towards the user of a specific site, but really, that could be said about any killer app. The fart app is geared towards iPhone users AND fart sound lovers. iMob is geared towards iPhone users AND mob-style game lovers. All these apps have done wonderfully, and are apps I would consider killer. The point is, an iPhone app is killer because it appeals to a subset of users really really well. Additionally, I see nothing wrong in them pointing out Tweetie, even though it is one of billions. Design and user interface is a very important layer to take into account, especially with these iPhone apps, and Tweetie's design is very intuitive, in my opinion. Design has much to do with an app being killer as its underlying technology.
  - unalone 17y ago
    Tweetie is good, but it's not a killer app. A killer app's something that annihilates its competition. Tweetie doesn't annihilate anything. The iPhone is killer, but when Wired is making the argument of "Instapaper justifies your owning an iPhone", it hurts the argument a lot to add "just as much as this Twitter app will". Tweetie is nothing ultraspecial. Instapaper might be. It hurts to compare it to a web site client.
- ubernostrum 17y ago

antidaily 17y ago

Tweetie is by far the best twitter client I've used. And 100% worthy of such high and arbitrary accolades.

unalone 17y ago
Its design is brilliant—I am similarly a fan, though I don't Twitter—but my point was that "killer app" means something that "the best twitter client I've ever used" does not.
ivankirigin 17y ago
Tweetdeck syncs with our desktop experience. For people that need to filter the stream to grok it better (read: eventually everyone), Tweetdeck is better.
- danw 17y ago
  This reminds me of something Russell Davies spoke about at dConstruct. To paraphrase, TweetDeck is humans solving problems humans have created for themselves.
  - ivankirigin 17y ago
    Communication isn't a human invention.
    - danw 17y ago
      Twitter is a human invention. Written communication (arguably) is a human invention. Audio from the talk will be available on http://2009.dconstruct.org/podcast/ http://2009.dconstruct.org/podcast/ soon.
      - ivankirigin 17y ago
        Tweetdeck also filters Facebook, and others soon too, I'd bet. Given enough time, it would work with your email / chats / voicemail / smoke signals etc. Filtering information is not a new idea at all.