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Raised insulin levels are much more complicated than we once thought. You can get an insulin response from artificial sweeteners just swished in your mouth and

Raised insulin levels are much more complicated than we once thought. You can get an insulin response from artificial sweeteners just swished in your mouth and spat out. Solution, eat real food when you can

3rd3 12y ago
Do you have a source for that? The last time I checked this worked with mice, but humans showed no insulin response from sweet taste alone.
- BSousa 12y ago
  I don't right now, but from my times when competing, I used to read a lot of science based research on nutrition and there was a study that said swishing a carb rich liquid was enough to trigger it. I think I first saw it referenced on an old edition of 'The Complete Guide to Sports Nutrition' by Anita Bean
  - demallien 12y ago
    Artificial sweeteners are not "carb rich". That's kind of the point of them...
    - BSousa 12y ago
      What I meant was there is a possibility of it happening as a sweet taste (parent didn't mention sweeteners, just sweet taste) response since there is a similar response to carb rich drinks (study didn't mention the kind of carbs so no idea)
  - spmurrayzzz 12y ago
    Are you referring to the salivary amylase mechanism? Sounds similar but actually requires starch to be activated. I'm aware of no RCT or even epidemiological research to suggest that NAS causally mediates insulin response.
- abecedarius 12y ago
  Oops, I didn't realize I was logged into abecedarius's account still on this machine. Reposting my inflammatory comment as me.
- kragen 12y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18556090 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18556090, "Cephalic phase insulin release in healthy humans after taste stimulation?". The abstract ends, "In conclusion, the current data suggest that the sweeteners sucrose and saccharin activate a CPIR even when applied to the oral cavity only." Just, Pau, Engel, Hummel 2008. Appetite. 2008 Nov;51(3):622-7. doi: 10.1016/j.appet.2008.04.271. Epub 2008 May 10. I appreciate that you posted a comment instead of just downoting. The fucking ignorant downvoting prick squad is a key reason that I mostly gave up commenting here.

3rd3 12y ago

Do you have a source for that? The last time I checked this worked with mice, but humans showed no insulin response from sweet taste alone.

BSousa 12y ago
I don't right now, but from my times when competing, I used to read a lot of science based research on nutrition and there was a study that said swishing a carb rich liquid was enough to trigger it. I think I first saw it referenced on an old edition of 'The Complete Guide to Sports Nutrition' by Anita Bean
- demallien 12y ago
  Artificial sweeteners are not "carb rich". That's kind of the point of them...
  - BSousa 12y ago
    What I meant was there is a possibility of it happening as a sweet taste (parent didn't mention sweeteners, just sweet taste) response since there is a similar response to carb rich drinks (study didn't mention the kind of carbs so no idea)
- spmurrayzzz 12y ago
  Are you referring to the salivary amylase mechanism? Sounds similar but actually requires starch to be activated. I'm aware of no RCT or even epidemiological research to suggest that NAS causally mediates insulin response.
abecedarius 12y ago
Oops, I didn't realize I was logged into abecedarius's account still on this machine. Reposting my inflammatory comment as me.
kragen 12y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18556090 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18556090, "Cephalic phase insulin release in healthy humans after taste stimulation?". The abstract ends, "In conclusion, the current data suggest that the sweeteners sucrose and saccharin activate a CPIR even when applied to the oral cavity only." Just, Pau, Engel, Hummel 2008. Appetite. 2008 Nov;51(3):622-7. doi: 10.1016/j.appet.2008.04.271. Epub 2008 May 10. I appreciate that you posted a comment instead of just downoting. The fucking ignorant downvoting prick squad is a key reason that I mostly gave up commenting here.