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Remembering a pattern seems easier than remembering the actual order. Maybe it's because of years of using pattern unlock on my phone. Very cool. Is there any

Remembering a pattern seems easier than remembering the actual order. Maybe it's because of years of using pattern unlock on my phone. Very cool. Is there any theoretical basis to it? Some research? Does the ability to solve this test correlate with other qualities?

awendt 12y ago
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXP8qeFF6A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXP8qeFF6A for a video that made me build this. Google for "ayumu chimp" for a number of articles on the subject.
- shpx 12y ago
  "it's really very very difficult" Um... no. Cool concept, but I find it hard to see how someone could find this hard though. I also don't see how this is a sign of "intelligence" Just imagine the line the points draw, and when you have to split it into one directional patterns you can easily remember.. Ps. Can we get a version where it's just 9 circles?
  - arnorhs 12y ago
    I can't see any mention of this in the post or on the page where it claims this is an indicator for intelligence. now, since we're on the topic, we probably need to discuss whether or not this could be an indicator for intelligence. I don't know how much research has gone into seeing whether or not there's a link between intelligence and working memory, but according to wikipedia [1], memory is one of the things that encompasses intelligence, so there might be a link. 1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence
    - jacquesm 12y ago
      http://www.gwern.net/DNB%20FAQ http://www.gwern.net/DNB%20FAQ
    - awendt 12y ago
      The very first lines in the video refers to intelligence: > The scientists […] have devised intelligence tests for chimps. One test is for what's called working memory.
- practicalpants 12y ago
  That's incredible how quickly and consistently the chimp could do it. I didn't find it difficult, but I still had to take a bit of time to look for a pattern and review the pattern a couple times in my mind before I started. Yet, it's clear for the chimp there is no 'thinking' about it going on. Trying to imagine what it would be like to experience it as a chimp.

awendt 12y ago

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXP8qeFF6A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXP8qeFF6A for a video that made me build this. Google for "ayumu chimp" for a number of articles on the subject.

shpx 12y ago
"it's really very very difficult" Um... no. Cool concept, but I find it hard to see how someone could find this hard though. I also don't see how this is a sign of "intelligence" Just imagine the line the points draw, and when you have to split it into one directional patterns you can easily remember.. Ps. Can we get a version where it's just 9 circles?
- arnorhs 12y ago
  I can't see any mention of this in the post or on the page where it claims this is an indicator for intelligence. now, since we're on the topic, we probably need to discuss whether or not this could be an indicator for intelligence. I don't know how much research has gone into seeing whether or not there's a link between intelligence and working memory, but according to wikipedia [1], memory is one of the things that encompasses intelligence, so there might be a link. 1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence
  - jacquesm 12y ago
    http://www.gwern.net/DNB%20FAQ http://www.gwern.net/DNB%20FAQ
  - awendt 12y ago
    The very first lines in the video refers to intelligence: > The scientists […] have devised intelligence tests for chimps. One test is for what's called working memory.
practicalpants 12y ago
That's incredible how quickly and consistently the chimp could do it. I didn't find it difficult, but I still had to take a bit of time to look for a pattern and review the pattern a couple times in my mind before I started. Yet, it's clear for the chimp there is no 'thinking' about it going on. Trying to imagine what it would be like to experience it as a chimp.