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You don't need a clearance. We have large commercial deployments.

by xamdam 12y ago

bane 12y ago
I did some consulting work with the NYPD and heard you guys also have some deployments with them and other large police forces. Those are nice non-clearance, but cool, jobs as well.
- dreamweapon 12y ago
  "Cool" I guess, if you consider working for the NYPD to be cool. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner [2] https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/nypd-muslim-surveillance https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/nypd-muslim-surveillance [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_Cit...
  - bane 12y ago
    I do. All big organizations do bad things in specific cases and have problems that need to be addressed - the NYPD is no different. For every one of these examples I can point to a hundred cases where some officer put their life on the line to do their job and help do their part to make NYC a decent place to live. To give you an idea of how big the NYPD is as an organization, it's about a third larger than the active duty Army of Australia. My couple times working with them showed most of the officers I encountered to be genuinely concerned about their city and a strong desire to do a good and fair job. And yes of course there's lots of rallying together and supporting each other, even when that support often doesn't make sense to an outsider. But they really don't have anybody else they can rely on for their safety and support. And they take enormous flak and disrespect from the public on a daily basis for pretty much exercising any aspect of their function. But as a large police force, the NYPD is basically a model for other large municiple forces and are heads and tails above deeply problematic large forces like the LAPD.
    - pessimizer 12y ago
      This conversation is totally beside any point, but stop-and-frisk has happened over 5 million times since 2002 (9 out of 10 leading to nothing), and a community of thousands were monitored based on their religion over a period of years, although it never generated a single lead. >For every one of these examples I can point to a hundred cases where some officer put their life on the line to do their job and help do their part to make NYC a decent place to live. Over 500 million times? http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data
      - bane 12y ago
        > Over 500 million times? Yes, congratulations, you know how to multiply. You know it was a figure of speech. Anybody can make lists of good and bad deeds about an organization and point to why that list exemplifies some preconceived notion you already have. Here's my list after 2 minutes of barely looking http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/02/nypd-saves-baby_n_4884928.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/02/nypd-saves-baby_n_4... http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-hospital-village-shootout-article-1.1885720 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-hospital-... http://7online.com/news/exclusive-hero-cop-speaks-out-about-wild-shootout-video/69315/ http://7online.com/news/exclusive-hero-cop-speaks-out-about-... http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-praises-hero-nypd-girlfriend-ceremony-article-1.1341515 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-praises-hero-nypd-... http://nypost.com/2014/04/10/smoke-from-williamsburg-blaze-sends-2-hero-cops-to-hospital/ http://nypost.com/2014/04/10/smoke-from-williamsburg-blaze-s... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/13/nypd-hero-cop-killed-by-recently-released-violent-felon-with-a-warrant/ http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/13/nypd-hero-cop-kil... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_workers_killed_in_the_September_11_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_workers_killed_in_th... http://www.wnyc.org/story/nypd-includes-officers-died-911-illnesses-wall-heroes/ http://www.wnyc.org/story/nypd-includes-officers-died-911-il... http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/610520-hero-cop-dies-nypd-officer-hurt-in-apartment-fire-dead/ http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/610520-hero-cop-dies-nypd-of... http://www.silive.com/obituaries/index.ssf/2014/03/peter_mcpolin_53_retired_cop_a.html http://www.silive.com/obituaries/index.ssf/2014/03/peter_mcp... http://www.breaking911.com/hero-nypd-cops-save-man-from-jumping-off-brooklyn-bridge-full-details/ http://www.breaking911.com/hero-nypd-cops-save-man-from-jump... http://epicvictories.com/nypd-officer-becomes-a-hero-after-helping-a-barefoot-homeless-man/ http://epicvictories.com/nypd-officer-becomes-a-hero-after-h...
  - qq66 12y ago
    Well if we're just going to compare one-sided views: http://nypost.com/2013/11/02/nyc-on-track-to-be-nations-safest-city/ http://nypost.com/2013/11/02/nyc-on-track-to-be-nations-safe...

You don't need a clearance. We have large commercial deployments.

by xamdam 12y ago

You don't need a clearance. We have large commercial deployments.

bane 12y ago

I did some consulting work with the NYPD and heard you guys also have some deployments with them and other large police forces. Those are nice non-clearance, but cool, jobs as well.

dreamweapon 12y ago
"Cool" I guess, if you consider working for the NYPD to be cool. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner [2] https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/nypd-muslim-surveillance https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/nypd-muslim-surveillance [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_Cit...
- bane 12y ago
  I do. All big organizations do bad things in specific cases and have problems that need to be addressed - the NYPD is no different. For every one of these examples I can point to a hundred cases where some officer put their life on the line to do their job and help do their part to make NYC a decent place to live. To give you an idea of how big the NYPD is as an organization, it's about a third larger than the active duty Army of Australia. My couple times working with them showed most of the officers I encountered to be genuinely concerned about their city and a strong desire to do a good and fair job. And yes of course there's lots of rallying together and supporting each other, even when that support often doesn't make sense to an outsider. But they really don't have anybody else they can rely on for their safety and support. And they take enormous flak and disrespect from the public on a daily basis for pretty much exercising any aspect of their function. But as a large police force, the NYPD is basically a model for other large municiple forces and are heads and tails above deeply problematic large forces like the LAPD.
  - pessimizer 12y ago
    This conversation is totally beside any point, but stop-and-frisk has happened over 5 million times since 2002 (9 out of 10 leading to nothing), and a community of thousands were monitored based on their religion over a period of years, although it never generated a single lead. >For every one of these examples I can point to a hundred cases where some officer put their life on the line to do their job and help do their part to make NYC a decent place to live. Over 500 million times? http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data
    - bane 12y ago
      > Over 500 million times? Yes, congratulations, you know how to multiply. You know it was a figure of speech. Anybody can make lists of good and bad deeds about an organization and point to why that list exemplifies some preconceived notion you already have. Here's my list after 2 minutes of barely looking http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/02/nypd-saves-baby_n_4884928.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/02/nypd-saves-baby_n_4... http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-hospital-village-shootout-article-1.1885720 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-hospital-... http://7online.com/news/exclusive-hero-cop-speaks-out-about-wild-shootout-video/69315/ http://7online.com/news/exclusive-hero-cop-speaks-out-about-... http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-praises-hero-nypd-girlfriend-ceremony-article-1.1341515 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-praises-hero-nypd-... http://nypost.com/2014/04/10/smoke-from-williamsburg-blaze-sends-2-hero-cops-to-hospital/ http://nypost.com/2014/04/10/smoke-from-williamsburg-blaze-s... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/13/nypd-hero-cop-killed-by-recently-released-violent-felon-with-a-warrant/ http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/13/nypd-hero-cop-kil... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_workers_killed_in_the_September_11_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_workers_killed_in_th... http://www.wnyc.org/story/nypd-includes-officers-died-911-illnesses-wall-heroes/ http://www.wnyc.org/story/nypd-includes-officers-died-911-il... http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/610520-hero-cop-dies-nypd-officer-hurt-in-apartment-fire-dead/ http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/610520-hero-cop-dies-nypd-of... http://www.silive.com/obituaries/index.ssf/2014/03/peter_mcpolin_53_retired_cop_a.html http://www.silive.com/obituaries/index.ssf/2014/03/peter_mcp... http://www.breaking911.com/hero-nypd-cops-save-man-from-jumping-off-brooklyn-bridge-full-details/ http://www.breaking911.com/hero-nypd-cops-save-man-from-jump... http://epicvictories.com/nypd-officer-becomes-a-hero-after-helping-a-barefoot-homeless-man/ http://epicvictories.com/nypd-officer-becomes-a-hero-after-h...
- qq66 12y ago
  Well if we're just going to compare one-sided views: http://nypost.com/2013/11/02/nyc-on-track-to-be-nations-safest-city/ http://nypost.com/2013/11/02/nyc-on-track-to-be-nations-safe...