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So what exactly do you get for those prices? Some data munging and analytics? Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster. But this is th

So what exactly do you get for those prices? Some data munging and analytics? Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster. But this is the government so that might be more expensive than forking over the cash to Palantir.

mbesto 12y ago
> Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster That's exactly what Palantir is... companies like (SAP/Oracle)+(Accenture/Deloitte/IBM) can't compete with this since the "Just hire a few data scientists" talent is near impossible to attract without the sexiness of a company like Palantir. Palantir packages the whole thing up in a nice bow. Having spent a lot of time in enterprise software (mainly SAP), Palantir's value proposition is extremely attractive to BigGov and BigCo, with largely a higher rate of success and lower cost.
bane 12y ago
It's less automated data analytics and more chart drawing and semantic knowledge base management tied to a federated search system. Their principle competitor is http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/analysts-notebook http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/analysts-notebook They used to have a free trial you could run via java webstart on their website, but they've taken it down. Here's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86VKjFSMJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86VKjFSMJE It's big data in the sense that using google's search box is big data. But from my time using their demo a couple years ago, the actual tool is fairly small in focus. I don't even think the chart view can show more than a few hundred things.
- AJ007 12y ago
  Interesting, it looks a lot like Maltego.
  - kevinschumacher 12y ago
    Both use yEd http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yfiles_about.html http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yfiles_about.html
    - bane 12y ago
      That's interesting, do you have a source on that? I got into using yEd recently and was struck with how similar it seemed to tools like Palantir. It seems like something like yEd or other graphing tools are only a couple sprints from basically doing the same thing...at least from the user/client side.
- mayneack 12y ago
  It's still up: https://analyzethe.us/ https://analyzethe.us/
  - bane 12y ago
    Oh okay cool. That's a different demo. The old one was Operation Tradewinds or something.
    - mayneack 12y ago
      Tradestop is what you're thinking of.
dreamweapon 12y ago
Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster. Umm, a bit of shell scripting may also be required.

mbesto 12y ago

> Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster That's exactly what Palantir is... companies like (SAP/Oracle)+(Accenture/Deloitte/IBM) can't compete with this since the "Just hire a few data scientists" talent is near impossible to attract without the sexiness of a company like Palantir. Palantir packages the whole thing up in a nice bow. Having spent a lot of time in enterprise software (mainly SAP), Palantir's value proposition is extremely attractive to BigGov and BigCo, with largely a higher rate of success and lower cost.

bane 12y ago

It's less automated data analytics and more chart drawing and semantic knowledge base management tied to a federated search system. Their principle competitor is http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/analysts-notebook http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/analysts-notebook They used to have a free trial you could run via java webstart on their website, but they've taken it down. Here's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86VKjFSMJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86VKjFSMJE It's big data in the sense that using google's search box is big data. But from my time using their demo a couple years ago, the actual tool is fairly small in focus. I don't even think the chart view can show more than a few hundred things.

AJ007 12y ago
Interesting, it looks a lot like Maltego.
- kevinschumacher 12y ago
  Both use yEd http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yfiles_about.html http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yfiles_about.html
  - bane 12y ago
    That's interesting, do you have a source on that? I got into using yEd recently and was struck with how similar it seemed to tools like Palantir. It seems like something like yEd or other graphing tools are only a couple sprints from basically doing the same thing...at least from the user/client side.
mayneack 12y ago
It's still up: https://analyzethe.us/ https://analyzethe.us/
- bane 12y ago
  Oh okay cool. That's a different demo. The old one was Operation Tradewinds or something.
  - mayneack 12y ago
    Tradestop is what you're thinking of.

dreamweapon 12y ago

Just hire a few data scientists and give them a map/reduce cluster. Umm, a bit of shell scripting may also be required.