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Emacs is a great editor, very capable, and it's awesome that accessibility is possible with such a great editor. The author knows a lot and I'm glad they shared

Emacs is a great editor, very capable, and it's awesome that accessibility is possible with such a great editor. The author knows a lot and I'm glad they shared their experience. However that blog is nearly unreadable for someone with sight. Also I wonder if vim or IDE's like IntelliJ provide comparable accessibility. I'd hope they do.

yzzxy 12y ago
It's totally readable. You may dislike the aesthetic but it's a capable, simple page layout, unlike many modern sites "optimized for readability." It doesn't mess with your scrolling or use unreadable color combinations. It doesn't use crazy fonts or table layouts. What's unreadable?
- Kluny 12y ago
  I thought the tiled puppies were terrific!
- gwern 12y ago
  It is a little distracting to have that dog tiled across most of what would otherwise be whitespace. No doubt it's not a problem for anyone using a screenreader who just hears the text and doesn't seen the tiling...
jareds 12y ago
As a blind programmer I assume IntelliJ is completely inaccessible. I attempted to use Android Studio several months ago and it was completely inaccessible. Eclipse is pretty good though, I think part of this is do to IBM being a big backer of the Eclipse foundation.
- swartkrans 12y ago
  Wow, that's too bad. I hope they fix this.
- partomniscient 12y ago
  I'm wondering roughly how old you are? Curious question: As a blind programmer - has the 'JavaScript everything' approach to the web made your personal content consumption easier or harder? I briefly crossed paths with some blind users back in the late 1980's back when there was no heavily established GUI for the sighted masses (i.e. Windows 3.11). I'd be interested to know, compare and contrast how easily 'consumable' present cyberspace is versus the command-line era.
  - jareds 12y ago
    I'm 28. My first memories of heavily using the internet were internet explorer 4.0. I'd say that web accessibility has gotten better and I can use most web applications. Some of this is do to the fact that I am a power user and know my screen reading software well. I can't talk much about how the GUI has effected blind users since I started teaching my self to program at 14. WHile learning to program I also learned to use the commandline and find it is still better for some things. For example I use todo.sh on my PC along with the todo.txt touch app on iOS to keep track of tasks since I find that on the PC a commandline interface for something like task tracking is quicker. FOr email I use the standard gmail web interface or Thunderbird instead of a text based email client because I find it easier to use especially since I do not have a lot of email to deal with.
rdtsc 12y ago
> that blog is nearly unreadable for someone with sight. I'll take dog tiles vs pop-up ads or ads embedded in the text.
- philsnow 12y ago
  I'll take dog tiles vs sites "cleverly" hiding and showing content based off of scroll position. Modern web sites often feel like flash hell from the 90s ( http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/03/03 http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/03/03 )

yzzxy 12y ago

It's totally readable. You may dislike the aesthetic but it's a capable, simple page layout, unlike many modern sites "optimized for readability." It doesn't mess with your scrolling or use unreadable color combinations. It doesn't use crazy fonts or table layouts. What's unreadable?

Kluny 12y ago
I thought the tiled puppies were terrific!
gwern 12y ago
It is a little distracting to have that dog tiled across most of what would otherwise be whitespace. No doubt it's not a problem for anyone using a screenreader who just hears the text and doesn't seen the tiling...

jareds 12y ago

As a blind programmer I assume IntelliJ is completely inaccessible. I attempted to use Android Studio several months ago and it was completely inaccessible. Eclipse is pretty good though, I think part of this is do to IBM being a big backer of the Eclipse foundation.

swartkrans 12y ago
Wow, that's too bad. I hope they fix this.
partomniscient 12y ago
I'm wondering roughly how old you are? Curious question: As a blind programmer - has the 'JavaScript everything' approach to the web made your personal content consumption easier or harder? I briefly crossed paths with some blind users back in the late 1980's back when there was no heavily established GUI for the sighted masses (i.e. Windows 3.11). I'd be interested to know, compare and contrast how easily 'consumable' present cyberspace is versus the command-line era.
- jareds 12y ago
  I'm 28. My first memories of heavily using the internet were internet explorer 4.0. I'd say that web accessibility has gotten better and I can use most web applications. Some of this is do to the fact that I am a power user and know my screen reading software well. I can't talk much about how the GUI has effected blind users since I started teaching my self to program at 14. WHile learning to program I also learned to use the commandline and find it is still better for some things. For example I use todo.sh on my PC along with the todo.txt touch app on iOS to keep track of tasks since I find that on the PC a commandline interface for something like task tracking is quicker. FOr email I use the standard gmail web interface or Thunderbird instead of a text based email client because I find it easier to use especially since I do not have a lot of email to deal with.

rdtsc 12y ago

> that blog is nearly unreadable for someone with sight. I'll take dog tiles vs pop-up ads or ads embedded in the text.

philsnow 12y ago
I'll take dog tiles vs sites "cleverly" hiding and showing content based off of scroll position. Modern web sites often feel like flash hell from the 90s ( http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/03/03 http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/03/03 )