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Why nobody bothers to fix the ugly (i.e. misaligned with modern day design guidelines) out-of-the-box Telescope theme? I see a bunch of sites popping up with em

by kolev 12y ago

Why nobody bothers to fix the ugly (i.e. misaligned with modern day design guidelines) out-of-the-box Telescope theme? I see a bunch of sites popping up with empty hopes to build new communities with a domain and little effort?

kolev 12y ago
Why not use Lobsters (https://github.com/jcs/lobsters https://github.com/jcs/lobsters), instead, which is kinda active at https://lobste.rs/ https://lobste.rs/ and has been around for a couple of years if not more?
- thinkxl 12y ago
  I wanted to try MeteorJS, personal preference
  - kolev 12y ago
    I'm sure. By the way, this is the second time I'm bringing this on Hacker News - it's Meteor, not MeteorJS. Please, honor the branding that the authors have chosen (after a careful consideration).
    - thinkxl 12y ago
      Got it, Meteor.
thinkxl 12y ago
Why not? in the mean time I just did it as an experiment that came out as a comment on freenode ##frontend, if it goes well in a month or so, I will take some time from my current paid work to create a custom theme for this site. Empty hopes? do you have data to confirm that? little effort? we are not that experts as you Also I will just drop this just here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product Thanks for your comment :)
- kolev 12y ago
  I think you misunderstand MVP. It's not using somebody else's code and slapping a new domain on it without doing a little effort to customize. Even MVP landing pages look different. And, I think you misunderstand MVP. Instead of getting offensive at critical people - you should rather treasure feedback, especially negative - the guys with the positive feedback (possibly) already bought in. Again, when I see a website looking and behaving like a thousand other ones, I won't revisit, honestly, and I'm not alone. And why would I when you show no attention to detail and no energy to create and keep alive something trying to be different among the million other websites out there?
  - sgdesign 12y ago
    The creator of Bootstrappers.io managed to get 700 emails by launching "a website looking and behaving like a thousand other ones": http://blog.bootstrappers.io/how-i-bootstrapped-bootstrappersio http://blog.bootstrappers.io/how-i-bootstrapped-bootstrapper... I appreciate that you're trying to give feedback, but in this case I think you're extrapolating a bit too much from your own (perfectly valid) opinion. Just because you don't see the value doesn't mean plenty of other people won't :)
sgdesign 12y ago
Telescope designer here. Curious to know how many people think the default theme is ugly? Just upvote this comment if you agree with kolev so I can find out.
- leopoldo 12y ago
  Why not upvote kolev?
  - bvaldivielso 12y ago
    Because he will not be able to see how many upvotes that comment got then
  - dkuntz2 12y ago
    Because most people can't see comment scores other than their own.
- kolev 12y ago
  Don't get offended! I abused the word "ugly", I apologize, but Telescope is unlike the minimalistic looks of Hacker News, Lobsters, Monocle (http://monocle.io/ http://monocle.io/), Reddit, and Product Hunt. The looks of up/down arrows are inconsistent between homepage and comments. The buttons on the homepage on the right are too big and not modern-looking. Background of a comment and page should not differ (unless you have a fix width design - then what's beyond the fixed width is acceptable to in high contrast.
  - sgdesign 12y ago
    I'm not offended, thanks for the extra feedback :) Although I do want to point out that Telescope also comes with a minimally styled base theme that was specifically made to let people customize it however they want: http://telescope-base.meteor.com/ http://telescope-base.meteor.com/

by kolev 12y ago

kolev 12y ago

Why not use Lobsters (https://github.com/jcs/lobsters https://github.com/jcs/lobsters), instead, which is kinda active at https://lobste.rs/ https://lobste.rs/ and has been around for a couple of years if not more?

thinkxl 12y ago
I wanted to try MeteorJS, personal preference
- kolev 12y ago
  I'm sure. By the way, this is the second time I'm bringing this on Hacker News - it's Meteor, not MeteorJS. Please, honor the branding that the authors have chosen (after a careful consideration).
  - thinkxl 12y ago
    Got it, Meteor.

thinkxl 12y ago

Why not? in the mean time I just did it as an experiment that came out as a comment on freenode ##frontend, if it goes well in a month or so, I will take some time from my current paid work to create a custom theme for this site. Empty hopes? do you have data to confirm that? little effort? we are not that experts as you Also I will just drop this just here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product Thanks for your comment :)

kolev 12y ago
I think you misunderstand MVP. It's not using somebody else's code and slapping a new domain on it without doing a little effort to customize. Even MVP landing pages look different. And, I think you misunderstand MVP. Instead of getting offensive at critical people - you should rather treasure feedback, especially negative - the guys with the positive feedback (possibly) already bought in. Again, when I see a website looking and behaving like a thousand other ones, I won't revisit, honestly, and I'm not alone. And why would I when you show no attention to detail and no energy to create and keep alive something trying to be different among the million other websites out there?
- sgdesign 12y ago
  The creator of Bootstrappers.io managed to get 700 emails by launching "a website looking and behaving like a thousand other ones": http://blog.bootstrappers.io/how-i-bootstrapped-bootstrappersio http://blog.bootstrappers.io/how-i-bootstrapped-bootstrapper... I appreciate that you're trying to give feedback, but in this case I think you're extrapolating a bit too much from your own (perfectly valid) opinion. Just because you don't see the value doesn't mean plenty of other people won't :)

sgdesign 12y ago

Telescope designer here. Curious to know how many people think the default theme is ugly? Just upvote this comment if you agree with kolev so I can find out.

leopoldo 12y ago
Why not upvote kolev?
- bvaldivielso 12y ago
  Because he will not be able to see how many upvotes that comment got then
- dkuntz2 12y ago
  Because most people can't see comment scores other than their own.
kolev 12y ago
Don't get offended! I abused the word "ugly", I apologize, but Telescope is unlike the minimalistic looks of Hacker News, Lobsters, Monocle (http://monocle.io/ http://monocle.io/), Reddit, and Product Hunt. The looks of up/down arrows are inconsistent between homepage and comments. The buttons on the homepage on the right are too big and not modern-looking. Background of a comment and page should not differ (unless you have a fix width design - then what's beyond the fixed width is acceptable to in high contrast.
- sgdesign 12y ago
  I'm not offended, thanks for the extra feedback :) Although I do want to point out that Telescope also comes with a minimally styled base theme that was specifically made to let people customize it however they want: http://telescope-base.meteor.com/ http://telescope-base.meteor.com/