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I didn't know all this about him. Now I feel bad I even posted it here.

RangerScience 12y ago
Don't. People are more than one thing. Edit: Also, while it's important part of the story of Weev, it's not necessarily an important part of the story of US mistreatment of hackers. In other words, even if I think Weev is a terrible person, it's still newsworthy to know what he's up to.
- thaumaturgy 12y ago
  Yeah, that's been frustrating. Weev's case should have gotten even more publicity and discussion than it did, but every single time it came up, one of the first comments you'd see -- and it's a very low-hanging-fruit sort of comment -- is, "Weev's a scumbag." That would be relevant if you were writing a book about him. Or an expose. But if you're writing about the case, it's not. Everyone falls all over eachother in a rush to be the first or the loudest to proclaim Weev's scumbagishness, that smarter conversation gets drowned out.
  - x0x0 12y ago
    weev is a scumbag, who made it his business to shit on other people. When the same happens to him, well, karma. The case was resolved in his favor, so you should have no problem with the label "piece of shit" following weev everywhere he goes.
    - thaumaturgy 12y ago
      Thank you. Your commentary on that case -- and, more to the point, the people involved -- is unique, clever, and insightful. Your comment has completely changed the way that I view that case. Previously, I thought I had at least a cursory layman's understanding of it, but your analysis is deep and technical, while still being approachable by average joes like myself. It reminds me of the excellent commentary I used to expect from Pamela Jones on important cases in the past. It is comments like yours that have kept me coming back to HN these past six and a half years. The comment is so carefully written, so thoughtful, and obviously your time is so valuable, that I feel I ought to pay you for having made it. Regrettably, I have but a single plonk to give.
      - x0x0 12y ago
        My commentary, unlike yours, is informative (viz aespinoza). Further, the cfaa case has been hashed over (conviction vacated in april), and the linked article pretty much says he left the states and may or may not do things. It's a discussion of weev, not the cfaa. If you're so upset that weev's behavior towards women keeps getting brought up (and you can't even pretend it wasn't news to people right here), perhaps you should do some introspection.

Don't. People are more than one thing. Edit: Also, while it's important part of the story of Weev, it's not necessarily an important part of the story of US mistreatment of hackers. In other words, even if I think Weev is a terrible person, it's still newsworthy to know what he's up to.

thaumaturgy 12y ago
Yeah, that's been frustrating. Weev's case should have gotten even more publicity and discussion than it did, but every single time it came up, one of the first comments you'd see -- and it's a very low-hanging-fruit sort of comment -- is, "Weev's a scumbag." That would be relevant if you were writing a book about him. Or an expose. But if you're writing about the case, it's not. Everyone falls all over eachother in a rush to be the first or the loudest to proclaim Weev's scumbagishness, that smarter conversation gets drowned out.
- x0x0 12y ago
  weev is a scumbag, who made it his business to shit on other people. When the same happens to him, well, karma. The case was resolved in his favor, so you should have no problem with the label "piece of shit" following weev everywhere he goes.
  - thaumaturgy 12y ago
    Thank you. Your commentary on that case -- and, more to the point, the people involved -- is unique, clever, and insightful. Your comment has completely changed the way that I view that case. Previously, I thought I had at least a cursory layman's understanding of it, but your analysis is deep and technical, while still being approachable by average joes like myself. It reminds me of the excellent commentary I used to expect from Pamela Jones on important cases in the past. It is comments like yours that have kept me coming back to HN these past six and a half years. The comment is so carefully written, so thoughtful, and obviously your time is so valuable, that I feel I ought to pay you for having made it. Regrettably, I have but a single plonk to give.
    - x0x0 12y ago
      My commentary, unlike yours, is informative (viz aespinoza). Further, the cfaa case has been hashed over (conviction vacated in april), and the linked article pretty much says he left the states and may or may not do things. It's a discussion of weev, not the cfaa. If you're so upset that weev's behavior towards women keeps getting brought up (and you can't even pretend it wasn't news to people right here), perhaps you should do some introspection.