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Indeed, maybe there was no scientific dark age in the Middle ages, at least not globally, but It was a dark age in Europe, knowledge was lost, the (roman) world
by pacofvf 12y ago
Indeed, maybe there was no scientific dark age in the Middle ages, at least not globally, but It was a dark age in Europe, knowledge was lost, the (roman) world economy collapsed and entirely disappeared, economic throughput and population would not recover until the industrial revolution[1]. The dark age ended when the last remaining of the ancient Roman world was forcibly dispersed from Constantinople, most of it found a safe harbor in Italian cities that would become the center of the Renaissance.[2]
[1] Ward-Perkins, Bryan. The Fall of Rome And the End of Civilization
[2] Brownworth, Lars. Lost to the West: The Forgotten Byzantine Empire That Rescued Western Civilization
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- pacofvf 12y agoI did, I just disagree that we can discard a dark age just because some Universities were founded as soon as the eleventh century, Europe literacy levels wouldn't match the Roman ones until the 19th century. Also the Muslim world invented the scientific method centuries before the western world did. (Jābir ibn Hayyān)
- thibauts 12y agoI tend to agree though saying Jabir ibn Hayyan invented the scientific method might be a bit of an overstatement. Which doesn't make him a less fascinating figure by any mean.
- benbreen 12y agoThat bit about literacy doesn't strike me as accurate. Granted, it's almost impossible to measure historical literacy so anyone debating it is dealing in very broad strokes, but literacy rates in western Europe are thought to have been pretty high by the 16th century - perhaps around 60 to 70% of men and 20 to 50% of women. I have a hard time believing that the population within the borders of the Roman Empire would match those percentages, or indeed that there are accurate ways to measure the literacy of such a huge swathe of the ancient world. (Remember, by "within Roman borders" we're talking about enslaved salt miners in Turkey, North African berber shepherds, Scottish borderlands raiders, Visigothic tribespeople and all sorts of other groups beyond the inhabitants of the city of Rome and the Italian peninsula.) Narrowing it down to "Roman citizens" would yield a very different and much higher literacy percentage, but that'd be cherry-picking.