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> I have over 1.5 million invested, and I net over 140k You're making 9.3% on your money? With interest rates as low as they are, I'm pretty impressed. What

by pdx 12y ago

> I have over 1.5 million invested, and I net over 140k You're making 9.3% on your money? With interest rates as low as they are, I'm pretty impressed. What sorts of things are you invested in?

ekr 12y ago
I'd also be interested in that.
newwb 12y ago
I just pay a CFA to manage my funds. He charges me 1% annually, and that's what I netted in 2013 after fees/tax. It's mostly fixed income, technology, oil/gas, REIT, type of investments in the stock market. I make occasional trades, but I don't do it full time. Interesting because if it wasn't for 2008, I wouldn't be nearly as wealthy as I am now. I lost quite a bit of money in 2008, but also made more than double my money back as the market recovered. Which is why I don't worry too much when people warn of market crashes...if I could survive 2008, and come out on top, it doesn't seem like there is much to be afraid of. I could be wrong, but it doesn't appear that way.
- sixQuarks 12y ago
  very dangerous thinking. Seems like you lucked out. Don't expect 9+% returns forever. The last few years have been a tremendous bull market.
  - newwb 12y ago
    Just curious about why you say this. I'm not saying you're wrong (because you aren't), but I would just like to know why you made this statement with conviction. I'm very aware something could happen, but I also experienced this in 2008. My 10+% returns have been on average since 2005. That's not to suggest or assume they will continue on this trend, but I am fairly confident that even in a recession or crash, the markets will eventually recover. I also keep on hand a decent amount of interest bearing cash to take advantage of these situations, and also protect from the downside. But like with any investment, there are risks.
    - sixQuarks 12y ago
      well, perhaps you know something I don't know. If you've gotten consistent 10+% returns since 2005 without taking on huge risk, then more power to you. In any system, there are going to be outliers, perhaps you are one of them.
JacobAldridge 12y ago
An Index Fund on the Dow Jones at pretty much any point in the past 5 years would have delivered ~10% returns. As noted in other comments, doesn't mean it will last forever (although I'm seeing a lot of economic analysis that supports it over the medium term). And it's not where I'm investing, but then I'm the entrepreneurial control guy not a passive investor like the OP.

by pdx 12y ago

> I have over 1.5 million invested, and I net over 140k You're making 9.3% on your money? With interest rates as low as they are, I'm pretty impressed. What sorts of things are you invested in?

ekr 12y ago

I'd also be interested in that.

newwb 12y ago

I just pay a CFA to manage my funds. He charges me 1% annually, and that's what I netted in 2013 after fees/tax. It's mostly fixed income, technology, oil/gas, REIT, type of investments in the stock market. I make occasional trades, but I don't do it full time. Interesting because if it wasn't for 2008, I wouldn't be nearly as wealthy as I am now. I lost quite a bit of money in 2008, but also made more than double my money back as the market recovered. Which is why I don't worry too much when people warn of market crashes...if I could survive 2008, and come out on top, it doesn't seem like there is much to be afraid of. I could be wrong, but it doesn't appear that way.

sixQuarks 12y ago
very dangerous thinking. Seems like you lucked out. Don't expect 9+% returns forever. The last few years have been a tremendous bull market.
- newwb 12y ago
  Just curious about why you say this. I'm not saying you're wrong (because you aren't), but I would just like to know why you made this statement with conviction. I'm very aware something could happen, but I also experienced this in 2008. My 10+% returns have been on average since 2005. That's not to suggest or assume they will continue on this trend, but I am fairly confident that even in a recession or crash, the markets will eventually recover. I also keep on hand a decent amount of interest bearing cash to take advantage of these situations, and also protect from the downside. But like with any investment, there are risks.
  - sixQuarks 12y ago
    well, perhaps you know something I don't know. If you've gotten consistent 10+% returns since 2005 without taking on huge risk, then more power to you. In any system, there are going to be outliers, perhaps you are one of them.

JacobAldridge 12y ago

An Index Fund on the Dow Jones at pretty much any point in the past 5 years would have delivered ~10% returns. As noted in other comments, doesn't mean it will last forever (although I'm seeing a lot of economic analysis that supports it over the medium term). And it's not where I'm investing, but then I'm the entrepreneurial control guy not a passive investor like the OP.