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To be honest, despite what Notch said several years ago I don't think it was ever well on its way to being open-sourced. Any hope that he would "clean it up" va

by spain 12y ago

To be honest, despite what Notch said several years ago I don't think it was ever well on its way to being open-sourced. Any hope that he would "clean it up" vanished when he lost interest in taking active part in development and passed it on. Not to mention that they've been working on a public modding API for years that never took off. > Instead now we have the DMCA-infighting and an atrocious modding community that hosts their source code on shady file upload sites, make their measly money from adfly-like sites and have never heard of Github. Couldn't agree more, but it's more of a consequence of most modders being new and inexperienced developers and kids. Some of the bigger and more professional modding projects like Bukkit are already hosted on GitHub [0], so I wouldn't blame it on just being closed source. It's not guaranteed that it would be that much better, though it might be because that way a lot more existing developers might feel like contributing. [0] https://github.com/Bukkit/Bukkit https://github.com/Bukkit/Bukkit

flurdy 12y ago
There are consequences already, whether it is related or not. Andy Hunt withdrew his recent Minecraft book due to the Bukkit library being pulled via DMCA: https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510437307389067265 https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510437307389067265 https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510438941959659520 https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510438941959659520
scrollaway 12y ago
Bukkit is possibly the only shred of sanity in the Minecraft world. I know its original developer (Nathan Adams) and he is absolutely top-notch (no pun intended) and deserves every bit of success he had with Bukkit and later with Mojang - he now works there. So no, bukkit isn't the problem. The problem is all the bukkit mods, and the situation between bukkit and mojang. Urgh.
makomk 12y ago
Bukkit is a licensing disaster zone though - the developers decided to license it under the GPL without exceptions even though it had to be tightly integrated with proprietary Minecraft server code to actually be useful. Now that CraftBukkit - the glue code to do that - has been DMCAed and everyone knows it's not legal to distribute, Bukkit is useless. The only fork of it that's still standing is Spigot, who are releasing their updates as binary patches against the last pre-DMCA-notice release to avoid redistributing the stuff which was the subject of the DMCA, and aren't making any source-level patches available. (Which in turn is almost certainly a violation of the GPL/LGPL license that CraftBukkit was under.)

by spain 12y ago

flurdy 12y ago

There are consequences already, whether it is related or not. Andy Hunt withdrew his recent Minecraft book due to the Bukkit library being pulled via DMCA: https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510437307389067265 https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510437307389067265 https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510438941959659520 https://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy/status/510438941959659520

scrollaway 12y ago

Bukkit is possibly the only shred of sanity in the Minecraft world. I know its original developer (Nathan Adams) and he is absolutely top-notch (no pun intended) and deserves every bit of success he had with Bukkit and later with Mojang - he now works there. So no, bukkit isn't the problem. The problem is all the bukkit mods, and the situation between bukkit and mojang. Urgh.

makomk 12y ago

Bukkit is a licensing disaster zone though - the developers decided to license it under the GPL without exceptions even though it had to be tightly integrated with proprietary Minecraft server code to actually be useful. Now that CraftBukkit - the glue code to do that - has been DMCAed and everyone knows it's not legal to distribute, Bukkit is useless. The only fork of it that's still standing is Spigot, who are releasing their updates as binary patches against the last pre-DMCA-notice release to avoid redistributing the stuff which was the subject of the DMCA, and aren't making any source-level patches available. (Which in turn is almost certainly a violation of the GPL/LGPL license that CraftBukkit was under.)