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This is great, a single standard being implemented in WebKit AND Firefox. Someone will probably have to write a plugin for IE though, since it's HIGHLY doubtfu

This is great, a single standard being implemented in WebKit AND Firefox. Someone will probably have to write a plugin for IE though, since it's HIGHLY doubtful Microsoft would cooperate.

mcav 17y ago
It's frustrating that this is the state we're in. We've got just about everyone EXCEPT the major browser vendor working on cool, useful, forward-thinking innovations, and standardizing on them with relative ease. Yet all of this innovation is so sorely limited without Microsoft's contribution (to IE). Normally I just nod my head and move on, but the future doesn't look any brighter for IE. Hopefully Microsoft's halfhearted interest in HTML5 will improve. But then again, MS could drop WebKit into IE9, and we'd still be stuck, unless Microsoft shoves IE9 down the Automatic Update pipeline as a required update. Which they should, IMHO. Progress is worth some pain.
- omouse 17y ago
  We've got just about everyone EXCEPT the major browser vendor working on cool, useful, forward-thinking innovations, and standardizing on them with relative ease. Yet all of this innovation is so sorely limited without Microsoft's contribution (to IE). Microsoft's ActiveX has been around for a long time. And I remember a little something called VRML that was supported by the major browsers of the time.
  - mcav 17y ago
    I'm looking more for something community-or-compatibility driven. The web community pushes for certain things; when everyone except IE gets on board, Microsoft should strive to pursue those standards. Poor word choice on my part: Microsoft has innovated before, yes. They're innovating now in various spaces. But they're dragging their feet in areas that could really boost the web as a platform, and that slows progress.
    - weaksauce 17y ago
      It scares them to have the web as a platform as it marginalizes two of it's cash cows: Office and Windows. Them not innovating is actually a smart business decision from their angle.
  - gcb 17y ago
    1994, and SGI IRIX already shipped with browser plugin for 3D and 3d content creator. even the lowly 8bit indy could handle it. VRML at it's best (if it had any best...) The 5.3 or 6.2 version of Irix (do not recall which one, the one that shipped with netscape 2.0) also had all the admin apps written in html+javascript, but completely merged with the OS look n feel. you simply couldn't tell.

This is great, a single standard being implemented in WebKit AND Firefox. Someone will probably have to write a plugin for IE though, since it's HIGHLY doubtful Microsoft would cooperate.

mcav 17y ago

It's frustrating that this is the state we're in. We've got just about everyone EXCEPT the major browser vendor working on cool, useful, forward-thinking innovations, and standardizing on them with relative ease. Yet all of this innovation is so sorely limited without Microsoft's contribution (to IE). Normally I just nod my head and move on, but the future doesn't look any brighter for IE. Hopefully Microsoft's halfhearted interest in HTML5 will improve. But then again, MS could drop WebKit into IE9, and we'd still be stuck, unless Microsoft shoves IE9 down the Automatic Update pipeline as a required update. Which they should, IMHO. Progress is worth some pain.

omouse 17y ago
We've got just about everyone EXCEPT the major browser vendor working on cool, useful, forward-thinking innovations, and standardizing on them with relative ease. Yet all of this innovation is so sorely limited without Microsoft's contribution (to IE). Microsoft's ActiveX has been around for a long time. And I remember a little something called VRML that was supported by the major browsers of the time.
- mcav 17y ago
  I'm looking more for something community-or-compatibility driven. The web community pushes for certain things; when everyone except IE gets on board, Microsoft should strive to pursue those standards. Poor word choice on my part: Microsoft has innovated before, yes. They're innovating now in various spaces. But they're dragging their feet in areas that could really boost the web as a platform, and that slows progress.
  - weaksauce 17y ago
    It scares them to have the web as a platform as it marginalizes two of it's cash cows: Office and Windows. Them not innovating is actually a smart business decision from their angle.
- gcb 17y ago
  1994, and SGI IRIX already shipped with browser plugin for 3D and 3d content creator. even the lowly 8bit indy could handle it. VRML at it's best (if it had any best...) The 5.3 or 6.2 version of Irix (do not recall which one, the one that shipped with netscape 2.0) also had all the admin apps written in html+javascript, but completely merged with the OS look n feel. you simply couldn't tell.