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FirefoxOS would be able to compete more effectively if it were installable on higher end devices.

by ChrisAntaki 12y ago

byoung2 12y ago
What prevents it from being installed on high end devices?
- blueskin_ 12y ago
  Nobody wanting it. Android has the smartphone market for people who want a device with customisability/moddability, good software support and options for hardware and the flexibility and power of having an accessible Linux system behind the scenes, while the iphone has the locked down walled garden "make all my decisions for me" market.
  - frewsxcv 12y ago
    This. Competition is stupid. There should be only one viable option.
    - zz1 12y ago
      Could you please wave your sarcasm sign? I won't understand that you are joking, otherwise. Because you're joking, right?
      - frewsxcv 12y ago
        Yes, forgot my <sarcasm> tags
- zz1 12y ago
  Nothing. Look at the geeksphone Revolution http://shop.geeksphone.com/es/moviles/9-revolution.html http://shop.geeksphone.com/es/moviles/9-revolution.html Still, this is not the moment for Firefox OS to go after high end market.
  - blueskin_ 12y ago
    Makes me wonder how many are sold with firefox rather than android. I'd bet good money not as many.
    - zz1 12y ago
      You haven't understand a single damn thing about it, did you? Nonetheless you'd be somehow right. The phone is sold with android and then it is up to you to install another OS that goes along with it, may it be WebOS, Ubuntu Touch or Firefox OS. So I guess not as many are sold with Firefox OS rather than Android, because ALL OF THEM ARE SOLD WITH ANDROID AND NONE WITH FIREFOX OS! Other than that, instead of talking trash all over the place about Firefox OS, did you even try it? And if it wasn't good enough for you, did you contribute to it? Because you know that half of it is written by volounteers, right? And if you can't code, did you file bugs in Bugzilla, right? Because certainly you are not just badmouthing Firefox OS without a clue of what it is and how it works and doing the best to improve it in order to have a better smartphone ecosystem that would benefit everyone, right?
      - blueskin_ 12y ago
        >So I guess not as many are sold with Firefox OS rather than Android, because ALL OF THEM ARE SOLD WITH ANDROID AND NONE WITH FIREFOX OS! Wikipedia says it's sold with either and can't dual boot. >And if it wasn't good enough for you, did you contribute to it? Because you know that half of it is written by volounteers, right? Ever hear of "throwing good money after bad"? If I had free hardware, I'd certainly at least test it out and report any glaring bugs, but I don't have any interest in it as a platform. I don't like BlackBerry phones either, but nobody goes "just try them" there (iphones, though, have their own cult around them of course).
        zz1 12y ago
        So I guess you don't have a computer and you are typing comments from a tablet? Because where there is Firefox Browser there is Firefox OS https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Firefox_OS_Simulator https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Firefox_OS_Si... Yeah, it can't dual boot, right. http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/21/the-geeksphone-revolution-goes-on-sale-letting-you-dual-boot-to-android-and-firefox-os/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/21/the-geeksphone-revolution-g... http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2014/02/21/geeksphones-revolution-dual-boot-android-firefox-os-smartphone-now-sale-e222/ http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2014/02/21/geeksphones-revoluti... https://searx.oe5tpo.com/?q=geeksphone%20revolution%20dual%20boot&pageno=1&category_general https://searx.oe5tpo.com/?q=geeksphone%20revolution%20dual%2...
blueskin_ 12y ago
The main problem there still exists though: Everything-as-a-website (still) doesn't work, and nobody wants to write apps for it.
- zz1 12y ago
  Plain false. Firefox OS is OS-as-a-website and it works. Marketplace[0] is full of apps. Not the ones you use on your own device, but those are not the ones Firefox OS was aiming for at this moment. [0] https://marketplace.firefox.com https://marketplace.firefox.com
zz1 12y ago
Firefox OS aims now at entry level and feature phones. Still, you can get a high end device, like the geeeksphone revolution or the Flame (lower). But high end smartphones users will likely be disappointed by Firefox OS in its actual stage of development.

FirefoxOS would be able to compete more effectively if it were installable on higher end devices.

byoung2 12y ago

What prevents it from being installed on high end devices?

blueskin_ 12y ago
Nobody wanting it. Android has the smartphone market for people who want a device with customisability/moddability, good software support and options for hardware and the flexibility and power of having an accessible Linux system behind the scenes, while the iphone has the locked down walled garden "make all my decisions for me" market.
- frewsxcv 12y ago
  This. Competition is stupid. There should be only one viable option.
  - zz1 12y ago
    Could you please wave your sarcasm sign? I won't understand that you are joking, otherwise. Because you're joking, right?
    - frewsxcv 12y ago
      Yes, forgot my <sarcasm> tags
zz1 12y ago
Nothing. Look at the geeksphone Revolution http://shop.geeksphone.com/es/moviles/9-revolution.html http://shop.geeksphone.com/es/moviles/9-revolution.html Still, this is not the moment for Firefox OS to go after high end market.
- blueskin_ 12y ago
  Makes me wonder how many are sold with firefox rather than android. I'd bet good money not as many.
  - zz1 12y ago
    You haven't understand a single damn thing about it, did you? Nonetheless you'd be somehow right. The phone is sold with android and then it is up to you to install another OS that goes along with it, may it be WebOS, Ubuntu Touch or Firefox OS. So I guess not as many are sold with Firefox OS rather than Android, because ALL OF THEM ARE SOLD WITH ANDROID AND NONE WITH FIREFOX OS! Other than that, instead of talking trash all over the place about Firefox OS, did you even try it? And if it wasn't good enough for you, did you contribute to it? Because you know that half of it is written by volounteers, right? And if you can't code, did you file bugs in Bugzilla, right? Because certainly you are not just badmouthing Firefox OS without a clue of what it is and how it works and doing the best to improve it in order to have a better smartphone ecosystem that would benefit everyone, right?
    - blueskin_ 12y ago
      >So I guess not as many are sold with Firefox OS rather than Android, because ALL OF THEM ARE SOLD WITH ANDROID AND NONE WITH FIREFOX OS! Wikipedia says it's sold with either and can't dual boot. >And if it wasn't good enough for you, did you contribute to it? Because you know that half of it is written by volounteers, right? Ever hear of "throwing good money after bad"? If I had free hardware, I'd certainly at least test it out and report any glaring bugs, but I don't have any interest in it as a platform. I don't like BlackBerry phones either, but nobody goes "just try them" there (iphones, though, have their own cult around them of course).
      - zz1 12y ago
        So I guess you don't have a computer and you are typing comments from a tablet? Because where there is Firefox Browser there is Firefox OS https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Firefox_OS_Simulator https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Firefox_OS_Si... Yeah, it can't dual boot, right. http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/21/the-geeksphone-revolution-goes-on-sale-letting-you-dual-boot-to-android-and-firefox-os/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/21/the-geeksphone-revolution-g... http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2014/02/21/geeksphones-revolution-dual-boot-android-firefox-os-smartphone-now-sale-e222/ http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2014/02/21/geeksphones-revoluti... https://searx.oe5tpo.com/?q=geeksphone%20revolution%20dual%20boot&pageno=1&category_general https://searx.oe5tpo.com/?q=geeksphone%20revolution%20dual%2...

blueskin_ 12y ago

The main problem there still exists though: Everything-as-a-website (still) doesn't work, and nobody wants to write apps for it.

zz1 12y ago
Plain false. Firefox OS is OS-as-a-website and it works. Marketplace[0] is full of apps. Not the ones you use on your own device, but those are not the ones Firefox OS was aiming for at this moment. [0] https://marketplace.firefox.com https://marketplace.firefox.com

zz1 12y ago

Firefox OS aims now at entry level and feature phones. Still, you can get a high end device, like the geeeksphone revolution or the Flame (lower). But high end smartphones users will likely be disappointed by Firefox OS in its actual stage of development.