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This feels like the typical Kimble self-advertising event. Disgusting.

by aw3c2 12y ago

Nanzikambe 12y ago
Regardless of my distate for KDC, I have to say: I disagree. Given the allegations * regarding the illegal involvement of state security apparatus in his case, I can totally see that this event represented an ideal platform for everyone participating. Though KDC did use the event to plug products & services, that wasn't the focus of the event. In his shoes, I think you'd have to concede that he'd have been an idiot not to do so. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom#Political_fallout_from_Dotcom.27s_arrest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom#Political_fallout_f...
sschueller 12y ago
He is actually at this very moment advertising his Mega service :)
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  - mrmondo 12y ago
    NZer here: Can't stand KDC, that however was the only moment in the whole stream he talked that I saw.
progx 12y ago
Nooo, really ? ;-)
- Fuxy 12y ago
  Hey sleazy or not this gets a lot of attention to a important issue which we desperately need.
  - aw3c2 12y ago
    That's such a central problem though! The messenger is always part of the message so it has to be a "good guy" or the message gets tainted.
    - oskarth 12y ago
      Step up. Stop complaining. This is what we got. EDIT: I assume your "No" is a reply to "Stop complaining". Unfortunately, your attitude reflects a "No" to the stepping up part as well. Which is fine, if your goal is to complain rather than to change things :) In fact, the central problem here is how to step up and be part of the solution. It's a question I ask myself, and one that you should consider asking yourself if you care about the issues at hand.
      - aw3c2 12y ago
        No. If you couple a good thing with a bad thing, you make it hard. I won't share this with my friends because I would not want to advertise Dotcom's personal agenda as byproduct. This is similar to politicians of the wrong parties saying this one might agree with. One has to be careful what implications are part of a package.
caractacus 12y ago
I am surprised that Greenwald and Snowden are choosing to reveal all this at an event that seems to have been orchestrated by Dotcom and prefaced by his typical self-publicising exaggerated rhetoric.
ElCapitanMarkla 12y ago
Ugh they should have stopped after Greenwald, Snowden and Assange. Until the lawyer started painting his poor Kim Dot Com picture it was good.
aluhut 12y ago
And so sad that so few seem to remember how he became big. I wouldn't entrust him my shoe size.
martiuk 12y ago
KDC is pretty much the anti-hero in this whole saga. While I don't really respect him as a person, I also don't believe it was fair/correct for what happened to him and I'm glad he's helping the cause against dragnet/mass surveillance.

This feels like the typical Kimble self-advertising event. Disgusting.

by aw3c2 12y ago

This feels like the typical Kimble self-advertising event. Disgusting.

Regardless of my distate for KDC, I have to say: I disagree. Given the allegations * regarding the illegal involvement of state security apparatus in his case, I can totally see that this event represented an ideal platform for everyone participating. Though KDC did use the event to plug products & services, that wasn't the focus of the event. In his shoes, I think you'd have to concede that he'd have been an idiot not to do so. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom#Political_fallout_from_Dotcom.27s_arrest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom#Political_fallout_f...

sschueller 12y ago

He is actually at this very moment advertising his Mega service :)

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- mrmondo 12y ago
  NZer here: Can't stand KDC, that however was the only moment in the whole stream he talked that I saw.

progx 12y ago

Nooo, really ? ;-)

Fuxy 12y ago
Hey sleazy or not this gets a lot of attention to a important issue which we desperately need.
- aw3c2 12y ago
  That's such a central problem though! The messenger is always part of the message so it has to be a "good guy" or the message gets tainted.
  - oskarth 12y ago
    Step up. Stop complaining. This is what we got. EDIT: I assume your "No" is a reply to "Stop complaining". Unfortunately, your attitude reflects a "No" to the stepping up part as well. Which is fine, if your goal is to complain rather than to change things :) In fact, the central problem here is how to step up and be part of the solution. It's a question I ask myself, and one that you should consider asking yourself if you care about the issues at hand.
    - aw3c2 12y ago
      No. If you couple a good thing with a bad thing, you make it hard. I won't share this with my friends because I would not want to advertise Dotcom's personal agenda as byproduct. This is similar to politicians of the wrong parties saying this one might agree with. One has to be careful what implications are part of a package.

caractacus 12y ago

I am surprised that Greenwald and Snowden are choosing to reveal all this at an event that seems to have been orchestrated by Dotcom and prefaced by his typical self-publicising exaggerated rhetoric.

ElCapitanMarkla 12y ago

Ugh they should have stopped after Greenwald, Snowden and Assange. Until the lawyer started painting his poor Kim Dot Com picture it was good.

aluhut 12y ago

And so sad that so few seem to remember how he became big. I wouldn't entrust him my shoe size.

martiuk 12y ago

KDC is pretty much the anti-hero in this whole saga. While I don't really respect him as a person, I also don't believe it was fair/correct for what happened to him and I'm glad he's helping the cause against dragnet/mass surveillance.