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Interesting, because we use New Relic extensively, and I was just thinking of it as the prime example of, "what the hell is the purpose of all these dashboards

by vkjv 12y ago

Interesting, because we use New Relic extensively, and I was just thinking of it as the prime example of, "what the hell is the purpose of all these dashboards and what do they mean?"

potatosareok 12y ago
I was wondering about that too. At my work they extensively use Wily Introscope performance monitoring. It's my first job, so I don't know what other options there are, but Wily seems pretty useful in providing real time and historical data about JVM based applications, as well as other components we use like message queues, time taken by SQL statements, as well as other configurable metrics like process/thread counts, CPU useage, etc. Wily has dashboards about overall application stats that you can configure, as well as dashboards (?) on a per application level. So I can take a look and see the threads on one JVM are getting stuck and also some SQL statements/service calls are taking longer then expected on that same JVM/overall application. Also useful in dashboards on a per datacenter level to help figure out what's going on. I'm genuinely curious, because I don't know any better, how do other companies monitor their applications? Anyone else have any comments about Wily monitoring?
Washuu 12y ago
Yep! As much as I love New Relic's logging I find that its interface is clunky, things never go to the places I believe they will take me, and there is an extensive amount of information clutter.
- dredmorbius 12y ago
  It is a one-size-fits-all interface. And I've definitely created my own tools to augment it. But as a first cut, I've found it a hugely useful tool.
dredmorbius 12y ago
Some of the presentations don't do much. The ability to drill in (varies by your platform) and find hot threads and methods is really useful in tuning. Other data are more useful for the marketing folks (e.g., geocoded data), though they can also point out abuse or other issues.

by vkjv 12y ago

Interesting, because we use New Relic extensively, and I was just thinking of it as the prime example of, "what the hell is the purpose of all these dashboards and what do they mean?"

potatosareok 12y ago

I was wondering about that too. At my work they extensively use Wily Introscope performance monitoring. It's my first job, so I don't know what other options there are, but Wily seems pretty useful in providing real time and historical data about JVM based applications, as well as other components we use like message queues, time taken by SQL statements, as well as other configurable metrics like process/thread counts, CPU useage, etc. Wily has dashboards about overall application stats that you can configure, as well as dashboards (?) on a per application level. So I can take a look and see the threads on one JVM are getting stuck and also some SQL statements/service calls are taking longer then expected on that same JVM/overall application. Also useful in dashboards on a per datacenter level to help figure out what's going on. I'm genuinely curious, because I don't know any better, how do other companies monitor their applications? Anyone else have any comments about Wily monitoring?

Washuu 12y ago

Yep! As much as I love New Relic's logging I find that its interface is clunky, things never go to the places I believe they will take me, and there is an extensive amount of information clutter.

dredmorbius 12y ago
It is a one-size-fits-all interface. And I've definitely created my own tools to augment it. But as a first cut, I've found it a hugely useful tool.

dredmorbius 12y ago

Some of the presentations don't do much. The ability to drill in (varies by your platform) and find hot threads and methods is really useful in tuning. Other data are more useful for the marketing folks (e.g., geocoded data), though they can also point out abuse or other issues.